Oct 2

SC EP:151 Last Man Standing

 
Tonight I speak with David who had a terrifying encounter with several Sasquatch’s. The men were in a remote location in Colorado and were out shooting targets when a very large ape-like creature stepped out of the bushes and was growling, screaming and showing its teeth. David describes what the creature looked like and describes the bushes around him exploding with other creatures screaming at them. David took up a defensive position and started firing while his cousin ran back to get the truck. David explains what happened and what he experienced.

 


 

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182 Responses to “SC EP:151 Last Man Standing”

      • Brad C

        I was 11 the first time when I saw the big guy actually it was feamale, started drinking and smoking the peace pipe when I was 16, when I was DNR fire crew, here we go again. My buddies started calling me BIGfoot Brad again, My crew grew up with me and they knew my story, I am 56 years old and I know my shit., I grew up with Vets, from WW2 thru today, I did not under stand PSD, shell shock what ever you want to call it, BF, They do challenge your mind, I was lucky enough that was young enough to bounce back from it, but I don’t camp anymore but I am still GAME, Group hugs, not kidding.

    • lee D

      Dear wes , it 1-22-2016 i payed my member ship fees i used PayPal. Yet i am block out my bank has protf i payed this is totally bs i have been with you guys sincecred 2015 i had to cancel my credit caed get a new one ! And go through. A bunch bs you have been payed for this month. What am i to do my bank want to file frad charges but i feel it was a honest. Billing mistake on your company. Side how would u like to handel this WES.??? SINCERELY , LEE DAVIS

  1. Steven B

    ” David took up a defensive position and started firing while his cousin ran back to get the truck.” You know, people always make fun of me when I go hunting for carrying WAY more ammo than I could ever need – I’ve been doing that even before I thought these creatures could inhabit the places I went. This episode ensures that I WILL continue this quirky habit.

    A light hearted story in the same vane. Cousin of mine was cross-bow hunting for deer. He took one bolt with him. He said, “I figured if I missed, that’d be it anyway.” Well, after first light a nice buck came out within range of his tree stand. His bolt went high and over the buck’s back. The buck just looked around and for the next half hour stayed well within range below his tree stand and all my cousin could do is watch. He now carries more than 1 bolt.

  2. Jeffrey H

    Wes: My hats off to you, great job!???? Sometimes it takes someone who’s been through the same war to understand what the other person is going through. A cathartic time was needed by one or even both parties, knowing that they are not alone in this experience. For all of us that have never experience such a situation, it’s not for us to judge. It’s just two brave men with some brass balls in my book, talking about their experiences with each other!???? Thank the Big Guy that they all made it through their experience alive!

  3. diana m

    Holy shet, David

    Holy Shet, David!!! You handled the situation perfect! What a freakin’ story! Your son must be very proud of you! Sorry it’s still rough for you now. The story will always be there, the emotional impact drifts off eventually. (shark story)

    PS David, I’d go hunting with you anytime, you got ginormous brass yups

    Really knocked it way out of the park, Wes!.

    • Karen C

      Diana, Thank You for realizing what an incredible story this is and what David went through…. Amazing Story and the biggest nightmare that I could even amagine to happend to anyone….All my Love to you David and your family (cousin included of course)!

  4. Manuel A

    Wes,
    This Sasquatch case is alarming, anyone doubting the creatures existence needs to re think there beliefs.
    David’s true encounter, he has been through hell and back!
    I agree with you about Sasquatch, David wouldn’t be here now if their
    intent was to kill him.
    I’m thinking there was a Sasquatch group/different families gathering food. Sasquatch protects it’s young.
    This is why they became so violent at David and his friends.
    I believe Sasquatch is an unknown ape with human like behavior.

    David, you can write to open forum within Sasquatch Chronicles.
    Share your thoughts, concerns with other people who’ve witness
    these creatures. Keep talking/writing and sharing your Sasquatch accounts.
    It will take time but you will come to terms with your ordeal.
    Excellent interview:)

  5. Kim S

    Thank you David…thanks so very much for your share.take care of how you feel it’s important to your healing process.stick with people that will help you and ur cousin….my heart breaks for you.family is always a good place to start.your encounter really effected me, and you delivered it beaut.kindest regards to you matey!????

  6. Papa - Yeti

    Ok, I posted a Forum thread upon just how important Quality of Sleep matters, as well in pertaining to Encounters / Attacks and PTSD, which many encounter victims have.

    David, thank you for your for sharing of your encounter, and for the information you provided which will help others in coping with encounters / attacks and the understandings. and Thank you Wes, for giving David the Opportunity to share of his encounter.

  7. Rodney P

    Awesome story wes thanks that poor guy desperately needed to talk to somebody glad it was you I’m pretty sure that you helped him understand more about those creatures

    • Joyce N

      Call BS all you want. I’d like to hear about how well you’d handle multiple sasquatch surrounding you and how you hit everyone of them in the dark bullseye. How you’ve got nerves of steel and handled it like a professional assassin. Walk a mile in his moccasins. Go ahead, I triple dog dare you. I guarantee you’ll be on here talking to Wes about your encounter and how you can’t sleep at night and your wife thinks you’re nuts and your world is falling completely apart. Go ahead, no really. Then maybe you’ll learn something about fear and trauma and you won’t be so quick to judge someone at their most vulnerable point.

        • Joyce N

          Lol at Joseph.
          Thanks for the kind word, Karen. These aren’t my men but I respect them as human beings having a really traumatic experience. If I met them in person I’d give them a hug ..tell them to keep their chin up and bump them with an elbow. Life is crazy. Sometime we all need someone to give us a hand up . I think this is what this site is for. To give support. Something like this could make you doubt your sanity. So, in this place we’re either all crazy or we’ve seen some weird shit. What’s the answer, I dunno. But I’ll watch along with you and we’ll see what we can find. 😉

    • Wes

      Mike,
      The witnesses never returned to the site his cousin did several days later. It was snowing when they left. I would assume he went back to try to get the snowmobiles and get out of there as soon as possible. I’ll ask David but for some reason I don’t think his cousin spent too much time looking around.

      • Grahan J

        Thank God I am not the ONLY one to sense the BS vibe on this story. I Love Sasquatch Chronicles and have listened to just about every episode, but this one just reeks of a hoax. This is the only one so far that really sent the red flags up.

          • Jenny

            I’m so so sorry Mark…please don’t weep! If I had known you could ONLY disagree with the vulnerable traumatised guests on this show and not the people calling him a liar and a fraud!!

            I’m such a terrible person, Im gonna kick people when theyre down from now on too, I should have known that you couldn’t take a dose of your own medicine…please please accept my sincerest apologies.

          • Eric

            Different Eric S here, is there a way to change my forum name? The other Eric can have whatever opinion he likes imo, I just don’t want to be confused with someone else. Tried changing my name under ‘my account’ but nothing happened. Any help is appreciated.

  8. Joyce N

    Wes, you’re 100% right about flight or fight response in this situation. The difference in David and his cousin’s response is how they process the danger level. The cousin who ran processed it as a flight response. He processed it as a no win situation, they were out numbered by creatures much larger and stronger than them. Makes sense. I’m sure David processed it the same but he decided to fight , they’ll either give up and go away or he’ll take a couple with him. He was locked into there’s no way out so you gotta fight your way out. Both were needed in the situation. By the cousin taking flight, getting the truck and coming back and by David shooting his way out keeping them at bay away from the running cousin. They lived to tell the tale because of it. That which doesn’t kill you will only make you stronger. David, remember that. 😉

  9. Amy N

    Oh man …
    My heart goes out to this brave soul. No one deserves the burden this guy and others in his position must carry.
    What a good guy! He clearly cares for his family and for the well being of others whom he does not wish harm from these beasts.
    Good job Wes in consoling David, I feel you gave some good advise which I’m sure he’s greatful for.
    Wish I could help him and his family. ????
    If David reads this I hope he’s able to stay in touch with Wes and the other good guys on this site, and work through these raw emotions to find himself again. Best wishes to David????

  10. Jim D

    I got this same feeling about a show that Shannon did right before she left, that guy sounded a lot like this guy, and what a lot of us commented about was how we thought the guy was actually hitting on Shannon, trying to impress her by using a fake encounter story. Most of the stories I have heard here I believe, some, uh…not so much.

    • Karey E B

      Yeah, this is one time I have to say, I dunno. I’ve heard others recount their stories and their voice begins to quake from the memory/terror. Seems his voice should have been more warbly, I mean, he’s surrounded by several, they’re coming at him, the snow mobile doesn’t start up, his cousin books up the hill to get the truck; however, in all fairness, we’re not all made up the same, so maybe he’s been able to come to terms with his experience–or has retold it enough times that he’s numb to the emotion of it. Still….this is one episode I have to kind of stand back and wonder the authenticity of your caller’s experience.

    • Grahan J

      i remember that guy ..he said he’d seen like 100 of them or something.

      look .. how many shows have there been? like 160, and two questionable guests is not bad,

      I have raised three sons, i can sense when a tall tale is being spun. others may not have the skills.

      I love the show and Wes is a fantastic host.

  11. DonRay

    Wow… Stay Strong Dave… I believe those creatures took those mags to prevent you from shooting at them… They are smart.. Smarter than you could believe.. There must be someone or other people with encounters, to talk to.. Unless your a total 100% believer, this is the type of reaction you will have… Im not saying that a believer wouldnt be scared, but after the encounter, they would understand what just just happened……. Thanks for sharing David…….. Great job Wes………Ciao

  12. DonRay

    i hear what your saying Jim D…… Thinking the same thing…..but there was 2 questions he answered, without thinking.. and it was about something you normal wouldnt think about in fiction…. Im giving him the benefit of the doubt…. Ciao

  13. Don O

    Regarding the “fight or flight” response…I have read that from a biological perspective the response is governed by the “hind brain”, or the part of ghe brain that sits at the top of the spinal column, also known as the “reptilizn brain”. According to what I read, if I understand this correctly, once that part of the brain is activated, it is designed by nature to shut down all other parts of the brain including those parts that are responsible for higher reasoning. So at that point the most primitive part of our brain is calling all the shots, and there is literally no other form of decision-making going on. In a way, it explains a lot of behavior in people in extreme situations. What I find remarkable is that even after David’s cousin got back to the relative safety of the truck, he found it in himself to drive back toward the danger to rescue his cousin. Had that not happened, David might not be alive. Not trying to offer up any excuses for anyone, just trying to hopefully help David make sense of a horrifying situation in a way that might help both him and his cousin heal from this. Hope I didn’t offend anyone.

    P.S……I never want to go “squatch hunting”.

    • Eric S

      This is actually the truth about the fight or flight….once rational thought returns we realize we need to do something like go back and get our friend….up until that point there is nothing on earth that can stop the flight response….which kicks in a different levels for different people….in some cases it causes people to lock up where nothing happens.

  14. Eric S

    Great show….sounds like you got this guy taking the right first step. Like alcohol, porn, drugs or abuse….letting these take over your life affects everyone and it feels like you showed him the direction to take the first step to get past this thing. One of the best so far.

  15. Melanie W

    David, my heart goes out to you. Hearing your story, I became incredibly angry at our government and science, that won’t come out and admit what’s out in our woods. It’s only people like Wes (a wise man) who offer you a place to talk about your experience, and offer a (now) safe place for you and other folks who have seen what you’ve seen. I’m sending out a huge hug to you both… Wish I could offer more.

    I think I finally get the song you close with, Wes.

  16. Sid N

    Having listened to many reports of both Sasquatch amend Dogman encounters where the animals received direct gunshot hits, a couple of things seem worth thinking about. We know nothing about their anatomy. Sasquatch reportedly have barrel chests. Is this due to and overgrowth of bone which forms a proctective cage and helps support their large upper body? Do vital organs have a different placement than we expect? If so, bullet fire may not inflict the same damage as one would expect. Until Wes has a specimen in his garage, we won’t know the answers to such questions! Years ago, I recall reading an account, a teenager, just hunting food for his family shot and killed an animal, for which he had not name for until later in life. The animal received a spine shot which dropped it. So like most animals one would need to know where the most effective place to shoot a Sasquatch would be in order to bring it down, and at this point that is really unknown. I know from what I hear here on my property, these animals hunt in groups. Like David said they may have became enraged when their hunting was disrupted by the target shooting. And as Wes stated, even more enraged by gunfire directed at them. By all accounts I have read they are less cautious when there are more than one individual making human contact. I also wonder if young males, as are human males, more willing to flex their muscles with another male with them. I live with these creatures living around my home, I feel fear, and it changed how I do things. I have lost a good deal of security and peace of mind. I hope David can regain some peace mind and continue to live his life as fully as possible. That saying, “knowledge is power” will help David in coping with this experience and time will also help as Wes said of his own experience. Best wishes to David and graditute for relaying his experience being sent his way.

  17. Pat T

    David, thank you so much for sharing your encounter with us. This show is very therapeutic for those who have been traumatized such as yourself. I can tell by the the emotion in your voice and your tears that what you experienced was very real. Wes , thanks for continuing to make this a sanctuary for those who need to get their encounters off of their chests. Always impressed by the way you treat your guests and the respect that is shown

  18. Laine N

    Great show Wes.I would have unloaded also. But I cannot say how I would react during and after an encounter like that, I don’t think anyone can and if someone says I would do this or that I say bullshit. Until your in the moment no one knows what they would do. Situations can change all reactions and how someone would deal with it. Wes keep up the good work, love the shows and people you have on.

  19. Bob D

    Hi wes that show about david was so intense i could picture the story in my mind as he told it and my heart was racing your show means so much to me . Thank you again for all you do. By the way the big foot party was a blast

  20. Phyllis E

    David. Take Wes’ advice. Go camping with your son. At least take him fishing and share your feelings with him. Hug your wife and tell her you had a really bad time and you love her. But please call your cousin and tell him how you feel.

    You might benefit from talking to Wes or someone else who is trained to deal with PTSD. You need your rest, your job and your family to get back in sync. Take care brother and realize you’re in the club whether you like it or not. Call Wes if it gets bad but I’m willing to bet just from sharing and talking to Wes you will get back to a kind of normal. It isn’t all inside anymore. It is released and lots of prayers and good juju coming from us. Hug your son and tell him you love him and hang out with him. Good luck and you’ll be fine.

  21. Ryan o

    David, thanks for sharing. Time does help even if it doesn’t seem like it right now.
    Wes, thanks for doing a good job of listening to David’s story and helping him tell his story.

  22. Eric S

    TO: Wes
    RE: Vulgarity on SC
    EPISODE: 137

    After dozens of member complaints posted about vulgarity used on this episode, you wrote:
    “Wes Germer
    I apologize for the bad language in the future I will bleep it out
    August 17th, 2015”
    Very disappointing that is happened AGAIN.
    Please Wes, if you are going to allow it – edit it out.
    Thank you.

    • Jenny

      TO :Wes
      RE :Prudes on SC
      EPISODE :137

      After dozens of Priggish killjoys have complained about a traumatised man letting a couple of curse words !! This totally unacceptable Wes, I dont what to listen or care about their overly delicate sensibility and their pretentious morality. It offends me to have to read their entitled , whiney posts.

      I’m very disappointed that this has happened again, In the future, please take extra time to edit out these prudes.

      Thank you 😉

    • Stacy F

      Oh, give me a freaking break. The guy slipped one time while reliving a very traumatic event (and believe me, there IS reliving in the telling) and you can’t handle it? Put on your big boy pants and don’t let that .025th of a second ruin your night. Or your week, or however long you’re going to let it eat away at you.

  23. Brian C

    I guess if one had the misfortune (or fortune) to encounter these creatures, it’s great to be armed to the teeth like this guy, with tons of ammo to boot. I never tout more than just one spare mag whenever I conceal carry, even in the woods. Guess I might be changing my habits now I’m in the deep boonies.

  24. Wendy C

    The Saquatch is a wild animal living in a beautiful environment minding it’s own business and the world is slowly encroaching upon its habitat, it’s no ones fault – it’s effectively protecting it’s ‘house’ as we all would if someone decided to come and camp at our place. David to you – I am sorry you are in so much emotional traumas right now – Wes is right to suggest being easy on your coz in flight mode, you coz would have been imagining the same terrorfying conclusions as you (he is probably suffering the same symptoms as you – nightmares and all) strangely you both need each other more than you realise right now !!! Thank you soooo much for sharing your encounter you are a brave man ( and so is your cousin 🙂 he knew what he was driving back into that’s amazing bravery – covering someone back to enable them to can get away is amazing bravery too – thanks again love your coz like you did before the incident – none of us know when are number is up be kind to yourself and one another – forget about blame – your both alive and here today. Nature is awesome you knew that before your encounter – don’t loose your connection to nature it is obviously a big part of your life Wes is right get to love it again and allow your son the same sense of nature you had growing up. Love and peace to you

  25. Tam C

    Dave,

    From all the cases that I’ve studied around the country, you most likely ran into a hunting party. In that case there will be several of them together. That is so frightening. One veteran by himself up here in the north is rumored to have run into an entire hunting party not far from me, and he stayed low, dropped down, didn’t move and listened. He said it sounded like heavey footed brigade marching past him with speed and force. He did exactly what he needed to do.

    As far as I’m concerned with your story… You were pushing them back and did exactly what needed to be done given the situation. I’m so glad you pushed them back, and your cousin was working out in his mind the way to get out of there. (a plan) If there is a man who stands his ground, it’s just like Wes said… it’s you. As far as the empty clip found on the ridge, my guess is that they knew you would come back for your damaged property, and when you did they probably didn’t want you to find the clip. Their way of saying you’ll have to work harder to find it, or maybe never find it, since they have no use for weapons and they hate them. But its what keeps man on the up and up in the food-chain. I’m so glad you went there with more ammo.

    If you decide to camp again, may I suggest rather than looking into a scope on a rifle to view them, take a really good flashlight and a pair of binoculars. Should you come across one in the future it most likely won’t upset him so badly as a rifle pointed his way. If he or she puts out an odor or starts tossing rocks, it’s a good time to pack up and back out of the area the same way you came. Don’t run, just walk and let them know that you didn’t mean to disturb them. Keep your vehicle very close and go no place where you can’t keep your vehicle close by. I think your cousin might be a good choice to take along… since by now in his mind he’s gone into the ins and outs of what he should or shouldn’t do in this type situation. But you can work that out together and get a feel for trust, or find another friend to take with you.

    Thanks so much Wes for helping others and bringing even more information to your program that is ultimately the best. Especially regarding research. ((many hugs))

  26. Janetta V

    Dear Wes, You are a super man. You were so kind to talk to this man to help get him out of his emotional dilemmas, and I think he will get better from now on as time heals. But it’s time for you to quit going back to the place of your encounter. You have proven it to yourself now, and that’s good. STOP!!! You can push it to far.
    As for you David , quit thinking about what could have been. You cousin DID come back. Be big!! Forgive him, all he did was run to the truck for you. You are blaming him for saving you. You’ve had it backwards for a year.
    Also for Eric up a few posts. What vulgarity, this was nothing, and does not need to be edited. Thanks Wes for the great episode. It was very scary. Best to all.

  27. Dario G

    David, YOU ARE AWESOME! I would gladly have you by my side in a situation like that. We might have to practice together on firing under pressure though. LOL. But seriously, You handled it like a warrior. I think bullet placement is key to successfully stopping one of these beasts. And under the pressure you were, I doubt even 5% of people in your shoes would have handled it as well as you and your cousin did. Your wife should probably seek out some advice on how to help you heal from the traumatic experience that you had. If not, at least you should try your hardest to help your little ones live a life with you outside of your experience. As much as you need healing from this, they need healthy bonding time with daddy. Let that be your driving force behind the process.
    You coming forward with your story is exactly what people need. I’ve been waiting for a story that I can show my friends that would open their eyes to the reality of the danger of these beasts. I know people that take their young ones hunting and camping without a care in the world. Awareness is key and your helping spread it. Your decision to share may have saved a life unknowingly. My prayers for you and yours for a speedy healing.
    WES, your a blessing to the process of helping people with what they go through & this show is a major library of knowledge that I believe will continue to grow and spread awareness. Thanks for all your hard work and for what you do.
    And to all you doubting people, thanks for the opposing views that you discuss. I do however disagree with the way you deliver it sometimes but nonetheless it helps people question instead of just running head on without analyzing.
    Great show ????????

  28. Melanie W

    Just was reading over the comments left by everyone, and found that mine, from yesterday, is gone. I didn’t anything that would merit removal… so, though I would try a test post and see if it happens again. Is there, perhaps, a limit to the number of comments you can have here? I know I saw mine show up yesterday. Hmmmm…

  29. jonathan l

    Great episode wes and well done on trying to help dave. Hope he overcomes what happened to him eventually. Sounds like his kid misses doing the things they use to do together. Wouldn’t want to ever encounter a sasquatch or yeti as we call them here in Australia. Never heard of any encounters here ,but would love to here an episode one day of an Australian encounter. Love sasquatch chronicles and cant wait for plenty more episodes. Has really got me intrigued about these creatures.

  30. Eric S

    This “witness” reminded me of an uncle I had.
    Every story was fantastic, and he was the hero.
    And none of us believed.
    Maybe tonight will be better!

  31. Seamus J. C

    A strange mix of credible detail and a detached, flitting quality to this narrative. I don’t believe this means it is false, rather it is very common that a certain level of dissociation from intense emotion goes along with PTSD, memories can become dissociated and fragmented and feeling can remain frustratingly out of reach even when telling the story of the original trauma. It can get to the point where one can have a hard time believing one’s own story, or believing it matters, especially if those around you disbelieve it (I am speaking from both experience and as a counselor, here). This may have been what some of you have been picking up on in Dave’s story. It may be that not every single detail is 100% historically accurate, but sometimes you just have to go with what you think you know, and take it from there. The way to move through it, and move on, is not to stay mired in doubt, nor to believe one knows everything about everything, but to stumble your way through the middle path. The way for us, as listeners, to help Dave and other witnesses who have been seriously affected by encounters with BF to stay on that path is to support them however we can. One of the best things about SC is the way people support each other, because in the eyes of society at large, we’re all LOONY!

    I used to think of BF stories as a fascinating sidebar to life in general, but the more I listen the more I see that it’s like any intense experience: you have to figure out whether and to whom to tell your tale, and figure out how to let it make you stronger. Because it’s NOT true that everything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Try it to Robin Williams’ family, or Amy Winehouse’s. But intense experiences can make you stronger if you approach them the right way, and if you have support from others….So, more and more it seems that BF is just another part of life. Huh.

    Wes, I think your advice about going easy on the cousin, and spending time in natural settings even if it’s hard (and it’s hard), were both well done and well said. Cheers.

  32. Seamus J. C

    A strange mix of credible detail and a detached, flitting quality to this narrative. I don’t believe this means it is false, rather it is very common that a certain level of dissociation from intense emotion goes along with PTSD, memories can become dissociated and fragmented and feeling can remain frustratingly out of reach even when telling the story of the original trauma. It can get to the point where one can have a hard time believing one’s own story, or believing it matters, especially if those around you disbelieve it (I am speaking from both experience and as a counselor, here). This may have been what some of you have been picking up on in Dave’s story. It may be that not every single detail is 100% historically accurate, but sometimes you just have to go with what you think you know, and take it from there. The way to move through it, and move on, is not to stay mired in doubt, nor to believe one knows everything about everything, but to stumble your way through the middle path. The way for us, as listeners, to help Dave and other witnesses who have been seriously affected by encounters with BF to stay on that path is to support them however we can. One of the best things about SC is the way people support each other, because in the eyes of society at large, we’re all LOONY!

    I used to think of BF stories as a fascinating sidebar to life in general, but the more I listen the more I see that it’s like any intense experience: you have to figure out whether and to whom to tell your tale, and figure out how to let it make you stronger. Because it’s NOT true that everything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Try it to Robin Williams’ family, or Amy Winehouse’s. But intense experiences can make you stronger if you approach them the right way, and if you have support from others….So, more and more it seems that BF is just another part of life. Huh.

    Wes, I think your advice about going easy on the cousin, and spending time in natural settings even if it’s hard (and it’s hard), were both well done and well said. Cheers.

  33. randolph w

    I always have my pistol at least on me with a backup clip, but maybe I’ll carry a few extra. Alot of the area’s I like to hike and explore are in the WA, north cascades, and quote a ways away from any help. Definitely an eye opening encounter. Thanks for the early posting of the show. Always a treat.

  34. Leah G

    Amazing show Wes. Talk about a nail-biting encounter – so happy David and his cousin made it out alive. I could hear the emotion in his voice continue to build as he retold his experience. Interesting that the only detail that remained with someone was the fact that David said the “f” word. Unless you’re of the age that should be watching Harry and the Hendersons, in your jammies, GROW UP and get over it.

  35. Damon M

    Not sure if this has been said but this young man needs some serious PTSD counseling. He is still very emotional and has a form of guilt after a year from the event. He should find some local mental health.

    Makes me reevaluate my desire to see these buffers…

    David seek some help my son has PTSD from the war. It will help…

    Dmc

  36. Allen O

    Good story and a very good job as always Wes. Buuuut idk man he’s says it was snowing hard as they left and that’s why he couldn’t find blood or tracks. Sasquatch are huge and would probably leave deep tracks in the snow so it would have had to snow ALOT ! Bu t he said his cousin seen all the spend rounds and spent magazines on the ground…. snowed enough to cover tracks but not bullets shells ??? Don’t wanna be negative but who knows

  37. Joel M

    Eric S, I think u need to take the right first step and go somewhere else. You are a douche. Either you are a paid schill or just a panzee! I’m tired of all of the people who come here to hear about other people coming close to losing their lives or atleast thinking so. Then you wanna cry about the word fuck or the word homo! Have you ever been in a situation like that??? Have you ever pissed or shit ur pants because of fear for your life…no. The answer is no….and I see the same attitude towards law enforcement. A cop risks his life everyday and you can handle when he has to put his hands on somebody, or have to tell you to grow up and get over whatever ur situation is…stop bothering Wes. If I don’t like something I go somewhere else. If I don’t belong somewhere I leave. But no, you think your entitled to any fucking thing that comes out of your ass because you paid your little 7 dollars or 70 dollars. And as for going camping after that incident, screw that buddy, I would consider myself lucky and move to the city!

  38. LUCAS P

    What’s with people getting SOOO offended by “f-bombs”? Are you all adults here? Yeah so put you kiddies to bed if you’re that uptight about them hearing dreaded “swear words”. News flash, it’s a podcast, not a church sermon. Just my opinion.

  39. Dawn O

    My heart totally goes out to David….I can only imagine what that whole experience was like. I actually shed a tear for the pain, grief, fear that he felt with these creatures and being left by his cousin, which I agree w/ Wes, it was a momentary lapse. No one knows how they’ll react to something like this until it happens. (On a side note, when we were kids, my Dad was in the driver’s seat, thankfully just backing out of a store, but it was near the highway, and he got scared by a spider and jumped out of the car with all of us kids still inside and none of us at the time could drive. Thankfully he got back in before the car hit the highway.There were 4 of us btw. So it happens.) Grant it 20 minutes is a long time! I wonder how long it actually took him to get to the truck? (Or did I miss that part?) Maybe his hands shook trying to start it, maybe he stumbled and fell along the way. I think David should talk to his cousin and ask him what happened that day that took him so long to get back. I think David should talk about this more – to people who believe – and he’ll feel better about the whole thing. Grant it, my encounter wasn’t scary at all (except for the monkey-type noises and the weird grunt/growling sound I heard, etc – that made me uneasy), & I don’t have nightmares, but I DO not like going outside at night alone anymore (the grunt sound and uneasiness of being watched has always been at night) and it’s mainly because I live alone now, I’m across the street where another encounter happened, I’m more scared of the humans around my area more. I wish David all the best. Feel free to talk to anyone of us, you might just hold the key to the mystery of these things. I’ll pray for you!!! (and your cousin, too)

  40. Elmer Fudd

    @Michael K ~ had this guy said he killed one I would have thought the story BS, but the story unfolded just how I would have expected it to with this guy taking shots with his 223 i.e. no apparent effect other than keeping them at bay, and that may have been mainly due to the sound of the gun, not the puny projectiles.

  41. Jesse W

    Listening to the encounter and Wes’s comments, I believe Wes is correct. I think a younger one took the ammo clips. That would also explain why they did become aggressive and not back down. In my opinion, the creatures heard gun fire, investigated and felt their family was possibly threatened. I would think they would have left the area unless half were cut-off from the rest and decided to correct that. Just my opinion.

  42. John S

    I would not judge someone’s intentions by their fight or flight response.

    The best of intentions has little to no bearing at all on what someone will do if the desired response is not well trained to point of reflex under stress.

    What someone does under extreme stress is either an inborn reflex or a trained reflex. For whatever reason you either perceived the situation differently or were trained to respond to this level of stress differently than your cousin. For all we know he was hoping you were running right behind him until he realized you weren’t. The fact that he overcame his fear of death and returned for you is the conscious act that I would judge him by.

    People can see this fight or flight response stressful sport situations as well as life and death. The casual observer can clearly see what should be done, but the highly trained athlete still botches the play. It doesn’t matter what someone is yelling at you to do under stress (including your conscience) if you’ve never trained the desired response to reflexive level you can’t hear the coaches or think rationally.

  43. Eric S

    So people here back to bullying and using vulgarity. What a shock.
    Another thing Wes promised would not happen.
    A man who does not keep his word makes me question his integrity on everything.

    • Matt P

      “A man who does not keep his word makes me question his integrity on everything.” -Eric S

      You left out the part where he takes your money then ignores questions if you don’t have an encounter.

      • Eric S

        Matt P:
        I do not know Wes personally, but I don’t think he would ignor you on purpose. Maybe he did not see your message, maybe he filed it, etc.
        Why don’t you try contacting him again?
        (You can also check out the “SC Forums” section, or post here. There are more kind people than not, and I am sure they will try to help you.)
        God Bless.

    • Joyce N

      A man who nags another man on his integrity when said man busts his ass to create a place for people to share their encounters without being ridiculed makes me think the nagging man has no life to speak of and likes making ridiculous demands because he has control issues. Not your podcast, buddy. If it disturbs you so much, why don’t you create a holy rollers sasquatch site where you have all the control over every little thing and live there. Wes is a good man doing good things. Why can’t you get past your own pettiness and see that? If a couple of cuss words are dropped after a relay of horrifying experience is discussed who cares? If that’s his biggest sin in this life, he’s far ahead of the game. Get over it , sunshine. Moving on.. but I will say this, people who chronically complain about other will get it back 10 fold. Learn to pick your battles, numbnutts, something’s aren’t worth fighting about. Don’t worry Wes, I forgive you if you delete me. 😉

  44. Seamus J. C

    Agreed, Trent. As for f-bombs, some find them objectionable, and some don’t. Live and let live? I don’t believe BF discriminate between those who enjoy a good f-bomb, and those who don’t; it’s more like whoever’s in their spacethat they come at. I believe the guest, David, apologized for his language. How hard is it to go back and bleep them out? Wes?

  45. Mac E

    Am I the only one that got the BS vibe from this one? I don’t like to be negative it just seemed like at times he couldn’t keep the story straight. Just came off as made up.

    • Grahan J

      i’m with you Mac. the only guy ive heard on here that i dont believe. not surprising though ..that not many picked up on it. Look at the politicians we wind up with cos people cant tell what shinola is. the tale kept getting deeper and wilder.

  46. theodore M

    Great story David, dont doubt you at all. I know about ptsd……. But your gonna have one hell of a GREAT story to tell your grand kids . I mean you were absolutely heroic,,that ones gonna end up in a movie somewhere. Too bad you werent withyour sweetie at the time. Probably get you oral for the rest of your life.And david seratonin reuptake inhibitors like Zoloft go a long way in getting you over the hump. Give it a shot brother, its well worth the effort.

  47. theodore M

    Hey wes, ever heard of the old saying ” one bad apple spoils the whole barrell. Well looks like you got a couple. I comehear to hear positive , bigfoot related info. Your posters are great . They really make your show a good listen. Please warn the killjjoys that freedom of speech has its limits at SQ. Bigfoot Evidence is contaminted by lowlife and detracts from an other wise interesting read. Please dont let the lowlife contaminate your sight. Its all the decent folks who add to this show that keeps me interested.

  48. Christian L

    There’s a reason people reacted to this episode with suspicion……I see my previous post w out any vulgarity was removed so I’ll keep this short and echo a previous comment, if out of 152 episodes only 2-4 are total fantasy those are good odds. Keep it up.

  49. Reisha B

    David,
    The courage it took to come on the show and tell your story putting all your raw emotion out there for others to hear was courageous. You stood toe to toe with a monster(s) and came out alive. You went to war and had not choice but to give it all you had to make it home to your family. I hope one day you’ll be able to put your story down on paper for everyone to read so once the truth comes out they’ll all want to know about you and you’re encounter. I’ve learned through my own life experiences that keeping a journal will help you keep your sanity during the difficult times. Right down you thoughts & get it out on paper. No one has to read it but you. I promise it will help you release some of the anxiety that you’re going through and help you slowly begin to heal. Most importantly, I want you to know that you are a hero because you probably saved 2 lives with your story. My husband & I live in Texas and were planning a camping trip to the Sam Houston National Forest near the Big Thicket area. I’m sure you may have heard of this area in many of the chronicles. It’s a hot spot for Bigfoots. My husband was planning on taking his AR 15 223 and I like to carry an AR15 308 carbon fiber to keep the gun as lite as possible. (if you’re do it then do it right) and a shot gun just for kicks. We had a definite sense of false security with these weapons. We’d listen to many of the chronicle stories but YOUR story really made us open our eyes & see that we were making an insane choice to go out there looking for these monsters. We could get killed! So we want to thank you for your story because we have now cancelled our plans and will not being going on our camping trip to the Big Thicket. One day when your son is older, he will understand what a hero is Dad truly is. Don’t give up because as Wes said, it does get easier. You and your family are in our prayers tonight. Take it one day at a time. God is greater than any monster and heals all.

  50. Nathan E

    I believe the witness implicitly. He was scared nigh-witless by a creature that wasn’t fooling around, and the event haunts him even now. I put myself in his shoes; if I had been charged by an angry Sasquatch like that I should have been unable to close my eyes for a week, and it would have been a long time before every clump of trees or culvert stopped looking sinister. Remember what Will said, “underwear-changing moment.” You don’t believe it, you haven’t been there…yet.

  51. Amit P

    Wes , do you observe that people who are not carrying guns also have violent encounters ? Or is it that only armed people face this aggressive behaviors ? Almost all the encounters I listen to when people are armed , they end up having a violent encounter. Can anyone confirm deny this ?

    Thanks

  52. Samuel F

    Anytime you are in fear pray and ask God to put his hedge of protection around you. You did a great thing coming on this show and telling your story it took a lot of guts. I will be praying for you to ask God to take this fear away from you God Bless you my brother…

  53. Janice P

    Dave, I like the idea about writing down your experience and journaling. Work it out in your mind. Remember the details if not for yourself but for the benefit of mankind. I’m so sorry you were all alone and terrified for your survival. I would not want to be your cousin and hold the weight of that guilt. He may not feel it now but he will. You sound like a good man. Maybe some day you can forgive him. Also, prayer helps. No…I have never run into one of those but I believe they exist. One day maybe you’ll surprise yourself by thinking, ‘well, if it had to happen given that situation then I can have some comfort knowing that it was me and not these other loved ones.’ These things are too aggressive for my liking. People can explain it away all they want but some day something big is going to grab the attention of the world and there will be righteous anger. Your actions against the threats may have kept certain disaster at bay. We just cannot know. I appreciated you coming in to give us more insight into these crearures. God bless you and your family.

  54. Monica S

    Wes, I am so impressed with how you handled this whole conversation. David laid himself bare to you and you respected that and supported him all the way through.
    You showed so much compassion and wisdom in how you answered him. It was like listening in on a counseling session.

  55. richard w

    David, I’m soooooooo sorry you had to experience that, you R so brave!! Your encounter was so scary, it would be hard to understand the terrror because it seems exiting but it’s just… petrifying. SO SORRY YOU HAD TO SEE THAT

  56. TARYN L

    WOW!!! I just listened to this episode. My heart goes out to this young man. I hope he can learn to live with this terrifying encounter and move forward. It sounds like he was stuck in the fear. Even though The fear is real I could hear some relief from being able to speak to someone he could open all the way up and let it out. Great episode.

    • STEVE W

      Nope, I know guys that prepare for war , I have over 1000 rounds and a insane amount of mags
      But he shouldn’t be upset with his cousin, , Everything happens for a reason , His cousin came back after him , So he put himself back into a bad situation that could have killed him as well , It took his cousin a few minutes to make sure he wasn’t coming and something happened , If the cousin wouldn’t have went after the truck both would have died , They would have ran out of ammo making a stand

  57. Penny F

    Wow! One of the scarier episodes! Thank you Dave for your honesty and raw emotions. It takes courage to open up and let folks know how scared you were. Your guns and ammo saved your life and your cousins, I believe. I hope you and your cuz are back to being buddies again. A traumatic experience should bring you closer. My heart and thoughts go out to you. I will not forget this encounter. EVER.

  58. Michael J

    I grew up in Wisconsin, a whole lot of snowmobiles and trails. Every sled I ever saw had a pull cord. I know you were scared but between the 2 of you you didn’t think to use the pull cord and get the …. out of of there?
    If both sleds ran well and didn’t have mechanical problems there is absolutely no reason they would not start.
    Never ever split up unless someone is hurt and going to die soon without help. St have had a lot of weight in that back pack with 900 + rounds.
    Well your safe, and thatwhats important. Ask God for help with yours PTSD, he will help if your sincere. I know the post is 6 years late but maybe you will look back.

  59. Chris S

    Nope, I don’t believe his story one bit. Rambo runs into Sasquatch. A 6’ 8” 350 lbs man with a shotgun runs to the truck while the smaller man turns into Rambo. If it IS true however, the man is just plain outright dangerous now, waking up grabbing his gun and discharging it multiple times. Does nightly patrols now around his house, sheesh. Go get some help buddy before you injure someone, can almost guarantee the Sasquatch won’t come after you. If they wanted you dead, then you wouldn’t have left your snowmobile or the area, period.

  60. L S

    Super Cringy. I’ve been going through, listening to EVERY episode and I’ve only questioned one and a half aspects out of all the accounts, but this episode, from the very beginning struck me as NOT genuine. He was making it up as he went. His emotions were badly timed. He contradicted himself repeatedly. He knew, instantly, that it was 7 feet tall. His cousin started blasting away at them, he thought they were lions until he saw the ones that were approaching from behind. Only in novels do you omniciantly know what the other person thinks in the moment, plus they’d already seen the one screaming like the Exorcist in front of them. And WHY would he think they were LIONS??!! They were surrounded, shooting at them 360 degrees, but they backed out firing into the air. Why fire into the air once you have started firing AT them??? Where do you “back out” at when you’re surrounded? They’d left the keys and lights on on both snowmobiles. Convenient. He didn’t know if they hit any, but they must’ve hit one or two or three, probably they hit four of them. Yeah, he heard one sequeel, he adds as an after thought. The snow covered any blood evidence or footprints, yet the shell casings and clips and snowmobile parts were scattered about. It looked like “kids” tore the snowmobiles apart. WTF? Kids??The handlebars were 10 feet up in the trees, Sasquatch generally throws things much higher up into the trees, and the motors were thrown 10 feet away into the snow. He just couldn’t understand why they would do such a thing. And the wires were chewed. Kids chew wires all the time, you know, and so do sasquatches. The cousin, who won’t even discuss it, went back BY HIMSELF, walked more than “20 minutes” from the snowmobiles to just get into the woods, then went another 25 yards to the incline where the1st beast (that looked like Planet of the Apes with pointy long teeth and twitching hands) was standing in order to find a clip. He was investigating like he needed answers, yet he can’t bring himself to discuss it ever again. A massive contradiction in character. I question whether he even HAS a cousin. Especially one that’s 7 1/2 feet tall, no, 6 1/2 feet, who shoots a 12 gague one handed. It was like a bad movie, and everything reminded him of a movie. Let’s see, he named The Exorcist, Rambo, House in the Woods, Planet of the Apes, and about 5 others I’ve forgotten. The guy has obviously watched too many movies and played too many video games and he needs to grow up and be a man now. Then he starts fake crying over nothing when he had told the entire story in a stone cold emotionless way. I know trauma. I know PTSD. I also know a liar when I hear one. His young son has this ridiculous idea that they’re his friends, yet he’s telling his classmates frightening stories about them. What a crock. What knowledge would his kid have had of them prior to this “encounter” since good ‘ol dad believed they were as real as the tooth fairy and Santa Clause? Then, aparently dad tells him they’re monsters that will eat you so the kid thinks they’re his friends. When I wasa kid I believed every word my dad said. This was 100% the crazy talk of a pathological liar. It would be interesting to have him on again, interview him a second time and see how much more he embellishes his story. That bit of entertainment would be worth tossing away one genuine encounter episode. And it might be educational for some of your painfully gullible members.

  61. craig d

    Oops, I didn’t mean to post my comment.
    I wholeheartedly agree ( first time for everything)
    with LS. Sounds like this guy is fabricating, sorry to question someone, and if it is genuine my apologies however it just doesn’t ring true. BS detector going off and that’s rare on this show.

  62. Karla G

    I mean I hate to say it, but I feel like this story is highly exaggerated at the very least. It started out believable but the further it went on the more fantastical it Got.

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