Dec 18

SC EP:283 Sasquatch and smallpox

Being distantly related to humans, Sasquatches would most likely suffer from various human afflictions as well, such as Chicken Pox, Measles, Mumps, Polio, etc. etc.

If one pauses to take account of the European invasion and its effect on the Native American population, you must consider that the same diseases wrought upon the indigenous people could have also had drastic affects on Sasquatch populations.

It very well could be that those who survived the onslaught of European settlement were those who took refuge in the most remote places on our continent, those very places that even today, remain nearly impossible to explore. Had a disease like Smallpox virtually wiped out tribe after tribe of Native American’s, this same disease could have brought already small populations of Sasquatch to the brink of extinction.

Tom Sewid returns to the show this week to discuss Sasquatch and smallpox. He will be sharing with us what the First Nation people say regarding this.

I will also be welcoming researcher Jonathan Odom to the show and he will be sharing with us his encounters and why he got involved in investigating this topic.




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45 Responses to “SC EP:283 Sasquatch and smallpox”

    • michael n

      Robert hello from a fellow buckeye!
      Thanks wes for your hard work and happy holidays to you and yours and everyone else here at S.C.!!

      • DrAaron

        I am lose friends with the woman in charge of primate veterinary department at the Columbus Zoo here in Ohio. She informed me that the majority of the gorillas are prescribed Prozac (a serotonin uptake inhibitor used to treat depression) during their stay at the primate exhibit. This surprised me, but she said it is very common for captivity. Who knew?

  1. Ben C

    I’ve never even thought about the possibility of a epidemic effecting the big fellows but it definitely makes sense if you stop and think about it. I hope everyone has a safe holiday season…

  2. Carolyn R

    Primates are infected by our respitory deseases like colds ect. Half of them that get sick from it die.
    Maybe that’s why they just look through windows at us….

  3. F S

    “This is the true story of an infant chimpanzee at Bossou, Guinea, West Africa, who died at the age of 2 and a half years. A researcher happened to capture her life on videotape for 16 days before her death and 27 days thereafter. The mother was named Jire, an approximately 35-year-old female. The infant’s name was Jokro.”

  4. Frankie P

    The things we don’t think of can be as dangerous as the things we do, it seems! All the great apes can get small pox and pneumonia and many other disease, and we can get stuff from them… who knew? Sounds like just as our species was starting to make inroads into their areas, we all got small pox and and most of the “natives” (native humans as well as Sasquatch) had a great die off. Amazing info. Faciniating stuff Mr. Sewid! Thank you so much, and thank you Wes for finding this historian to enlighten us so much.

  5. michael n

    The battery drain kind of brings me back to the we need help brothers ‘re visit on the open mic episode. Im not talking about demons but possibly ghosts maybe. Battery drains happen quite often in ghost hunting. I dont know enough about magnetic effects on batteries in the case of a magnetic anomaly. That is still strange if they are bending trees around magnetic anomaly.
    Also when you hear growls but cant see anything look up.
    Thanks wes.

    • michael n

      But also in the case of the we need help brothers if you hear a growl and dont see anything I guess it could be in invisible mode. I have such a hard time with that tho. How in the hell do these things go invisible? If it is true how do you explain that? And what else can these things do? That could definitely be a good reason for a cover up. How do you explain to the general public that not only do these things exist but they can turn invisible and they eat humans and live deep underground when they can. What other strange things they do that most of us dont know about yet but the government does?
      You are right wes this is turning into a huge can of worms some of which im not too comfortable with.

  6. F S

    Mr. Odom was AMAZING. What stories.
    Thanks to Mr. Senwid and Wes for keeping the show “family friendly”.

    For further information –
    * Steph Young, Author, has done some phenomenal work on the missing people issue, and she is brave enough to offer causes and answers – not just news reports like DP.
    * Dr. Melba Ketchum can directly address the issue of illness, physiology, and DNA. Unlike Dr. Meldrum, Dr. Ketchum is a MEDICAL doctor (DVM), not a doctor of philosophy.

  7. Blake S

    Checkout the remix of that 911 call, it’s actually pretty good, just search: “Bigfoot 911 – Emergency 911 Call Remix by Jessie Edsall (Jess-E)”

  8. james b

    SKY QUAKE!!!!! Yeah it was on the Bob Garret interview. He is a fascinating fella. I could listen to him for hours on end. He really needs to write a biography.

  9. pam purple rose

    I think Tom is doing a good thing researching the Pox and sasquatch connection. A side point: If they did contract the Pox from humans, and they recognized the fact humans caused their illness, that could be why they refuse to be near to us. Fear of epidemic.

  10. Duke S

    Great episode, I agree with Toms assessment of the Sasquatch getting diseases from humans, they have not been immunized and are still susceptible to things we have and are immune to at this point. Would explain a lot of standoffish behavior even in the face of overwhelming physical superiority they possess over humans. I have had a similar theory for quite a while, but based on native tribes, their territories around and north of the western great lakes, where the same thing may have happened at an earlier date. Johnathan is quite the intrepid fellow! I remember being on top of an abandoned mountain, sandwiched between a Ghost mining town and a Native burial ground, and looking for Mountain Giants last summer for 4 days, so I am not going to say anything about him being reckless or foolish, AT LEAST HE KNOWS WHEN TO LEAVE! lol.

  11. Gary C

    I’m really enjoying these episodes, good variety and interesting to hear all the different view points, still keeping my eye out for the next down the rabbit hole episodes as they were great at the time,
    Merry Christmas

    • Daniel S

      I I as excited about this show and wrote the above before I listened to the show, I how ever, did joke on this topic, as above Mr Sewid mentioned the harsh reality that foreign disease caused, as this topic was covered I thought, I knew this happen and realised when MrSewid talked about history, Isuppose what i forgot when I making my joke, and do apologise. peace.

  12. m99

    @FS~ While I agree that Dr. Ketchum is qualified to speak to the genetics, she is not a medical doctor (MD). She is a PhD, from Texas A & M University in veterinary medicine, as you said DVM, specializing in animal husbandry. She is also a specialist in DNA, and was called upon and used during the aftermath of the 911 tragedy. Isn’t is a shame that the people trying to discover the truth can’t get along with one another? I was really taken back by the way she was treated, and I shied away from the subject until we discover “bigfoot hotspot radio”, Wes’ crew online. It doesn’t matter what people’s personal opinions are, I just wish professionally they’d have given her credence and a real peer review. Thank you for posting regarding Dr. Ketchum, which shows she has a following. She is hands on and a real person. Thanks FS.

    • F S

      Dr. Melba S. Ketchum, Lead Scientist, SGP

      Melba S. Ketchum, D.V.M.

      Dr. Melba S. Ketchum grew up south of Houston, Texas. She is a Moody Scholar and attended Texas A&M University in College Station, where she received her doctorate in veterinary medicine in only five years. She practiced veterinary medicine until 1985 when her interest in genetics led her to establish DNA Diagnostics in 1985. She was a visiting scientist at the University of Kentucky’s Animal Genetic Testing and Research Laboratory in 1985 and in 1986. Dr. Ketchum has completed numerous training programs as new methods and technologies in DNA analysis have been introduced. She has advanced the science through her invention of the VeriSNP™ (patent pending) simultaneous DNA SNP and mutation array testing, which supports forensics, identity, parent verification, disease, traits (physical attributes), ancestry, and breed and sex determination.

      Dr. Ketchum is a member of the Association of Forensic DNA Analysts and Administrators and has served as the organization’s treasurer. She has chaired or served on a number of international committees and projects through the International Society for Animal Genetics. Extensively published in her discipline, Dr. Ketchum and has spoken at more than 20 conferences and other events. She also has been a consultant on local, national and international levels and provides professional forensic consultation and testimony in legal cases.

      Her funded research included multi-year work on the International Horse Genome Project and is one of the founding North American members of that consortium. She also has conducted a wide variety of research projects in DNA analysis and genetics involving animal species, DNA methods in animal and human forensics as well as veterinary diseases and treatments. Dr. Ketchum was one of the forensic scientists enlisted to conduct analysis of mtDNA sequences of human remains from victims of the 9/11 World Trade Center Disaster.

      Dr. Ketchum now focuses on selected genetic research projects.

  13. Stephanie G

    Thank you Wes for consistently providing interesting shows and speakers. I’ve been a member for a while but been listening since I could find the very first one. I’ve gone from being interested in the subject but skeptical to being a believer. Too many credible witnesses and sightings. Sure, some are bound to be exaggerated or even total falsehoods, but those have to be in the very small minority because the emotion in most voices just can’t be faked. Happy holidays to Wes and his crew, and all my fellow listeners.

  14. SANDRA E

    Thanks Jonathon for sharing your encounters. I don’t believe I have ever heard you tell the one about you and your dad….and I’ve seen all of your videos.
    Tom, glad to hear your thoughts on Smallpox in the Bigfoot world. I’ve often worried about the Bigfoot when I see people putting out food that they’ve brought from home. Unless Bigfoot has an instant remedy for the common cold, it could be deadly to a whole clan.
    And as usual, Wes, what a great week of shows. I always look forward to them.

  15. Amy H

    Science and intuition are often counter. We try to make connections to figure out our world. Most of those connections are incorrect. It’s okay to speculate but it is speculation based on nothing concrete. Correlation is not causation. As long as we remember this, it’s okay.

    I liked that Tom recognized/acknowledged the need for his speculation to be tested by the rigors of Science. Perhaps sasquatch can get smallpox, but perhaps not.
    Populations of animals spike at times because of many factors. Most of which we are unaware and cannot see and do not understand. Scientific rigor is the only way to know. It’s fun to speculate. I do it all the time. If we want answers to questions about our world, Science is the only bonafide route. What we all need is a person with a Ph.,D in Science on speed dial. Having answers to questions about the world around us makes living life easier. The internet is good, but it is mostly Science that’s been dumbed down for the general population.
    Knowing, as most all do, we share over 90% of our genes with primates isn’t enough to be able to make concrete statements about sasquatches immune system. If we had the genome of sasquatch, Melba K would likely know if they could get small pox (or any P.h.,D primatologist). It’s more then just sharing genes. There are other systems of chemicals/reactions that would come into play. Lastly, we don’t have the sasquatch genone mapped, a sasquatch in a zoo being studied, or one in Wes’s basement… so no one knows definitely if they can get our diseases. It’s pure speculation.

    Great shows and always entertaining!

  16. Julie D

    Oh wow. I watched Jonathon’s video, not knowing he was this guest and I’m so glad I did because I knew exactly what he was talking about! His stories are so interesting, I will be checking out his channel. And Tom as usual is a damn good storyteller and has so much knowledge to impart! Paired with the best interviewer it was another one knocked out of the park! Can’t wait til both men come back on with updates! But Jonathan, Please take a buddy or two. Those Dogmen are nothing to mess with!

  17. Bal G

    Please stop having “Tom” on the show. He sounds like a fake, phony and a fraud. Wes, whenever you ask him a specific question, he goes into another topic. Not just this show, but the previous 2 shows that he was on. He is a PHD in being a bushman. What in the world does that even mean? This guy just wants to promote his and his wife’s business. Please Wes, just dump this chump. Thanks, and keep up the good work.

  18. Arlene K

    Arlene K

    Every time you mention Bob Garrett, which are numerous times, it leaves me feeling empty.
    As one of the participants in his so-called Bigfoot excursions, I am not impressed with or by him in any way, shape or form. There is nothing he could say or tell you that would lead me or others to believe that he is credible, decent or honest. I know you don’t like name dropping and can assure you that this is one name I would use with discretion.
    You promoted him and quite frankly I don’t understand how you continue to do so knowing that he has left many of us in the lurch. No apology, no nothing…not impressed and never will be.

  19. Kathryn C

    I’ve been following Jonathan’s research for several months and really like his style of inviting his viewers along on the trip. He is so natural and honest and his approach to going into the bigfoot areas is much different than other researchers. I believe he respects the bigfoot and I think they understand that. Really enjoyed the show but I’m dying to know about the little green man, wondering if it had hair. lol

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