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Aug 12

SC EP:243 The Big Thicket Saga

I am releasing this as Sundays show, I have a show I am working on for members I will be posting tomorrow night. I think it is important everyone hear this show.

What happened to the big thicket team in Texas? Why is Sasquatch being covered up?

Bob Garrett and Tim Sermons will be my guests for an up coming show. Remember they had their Sasquatch expedition shut down by several law enforcement officials, now you get to hear it first hand from the guys, what really happened?

You heard Steven from Texas give his first hand account of the law enforcement raid that took place now you get to hear what led up to that situation and the aftermath.

 

 

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159 Responses to “SC EP:243 The Big Thicket Saga”

  5. Jeffrey H

    4th, damn!! Bob & Tim are always great to have on the show! Some of the best non-experts out there. Love learning from them. I am note surprised by how they have been treated by the govt., we have been hearing stories about the govt. and their bad behavior since almost from the beginning of SC. I’m just sorry those boys had to go through all that just trying to give some folks a chance to learn about the BF. All the best to them!!

  6. Duke S

    This was a great episode, but it just makes me so angry I can’t even put it into words appropriate for the fans here. If you wanted evidence that the Federal Government is completely insane and out of control, here it is! I wonder what they charge for a leprechaun hunting license in Texas?

    • Martin Z

      When the BLM guy was talking about making it worth their time, he meant he was looking for a payoff. Until you grease their hand you’re going to keep getting harassed. The only way to appease a corrupt official is to pay them off. A permit is just a bullshit excuse to get you to cooperate with a payoff. Were you guys born yesterday?

      • Martin Z

        And another thing, no one forced you guys to take the deal. I would have asked to see a judge and I would’ve guaranteed they would’ve dismissed the case. Why won’t you guys tell us what the charges were? Sorry guys but I call bullshit on this one.

        • sandy r

          I was thinking same on demanding to see a Judge they are bully’s when you stand up to a bully they back down or don’t expect you to stand up to them. There was a reason no judge was in there. Easy for us to say something seems off. But after all these lawyers laughed at the case well where are they now? Not one lawyer out there willing to help? Wes says he has had Judges on as witnesses none of them can help blow this shit open?

        • Andrew O

          I think it’s because the ‘Feds’ could bring any jumped up charge in front of the judge, and have the power to book them for something they haven’t done.

          Just think of the ‘A’ Team, and there’s your answer ;o)

      • Greg C

        I really doubt they would be so blunt ,there trying to get money for the state if anything ,if that guy was that bad he wouldn’t have a job long ,somebody would turn him in

    • SantiamLady

      Yeah, Jay! ?? Gov’t snipers! Missing on purpose as a harrassment method. That’s what I was thinking too!
      And, I agree about the child’s laughter & voices too. ? I think it is Sasquatches vocalizing. They can imitate almost anything!

  12. Jerry M

    I don’t feel like this whole thing is entirely about Bigfoot. If you listen to the alleged verbiage of the agents interrogation, they seem more interested in something else other than the creatures. Think about the amount of surveillance….

  15. Richard S

    Great show Wes! The govt will share no expense to cover up the Bigfoot to prevent educating the public of the phenomenon. Amazing behavior by the cops regarding Bob’s kids getting shot at; seems like warning shots that they’re getting to close to the truth. How about the Feds questioning the guys, they want to know what they know about Bigfoot; proves that govt is concerned the public is becoming more informed and not the other way around. That’s the first time I heard Bob talk about big woods area and folks coming up missing on lone star trail there…makes you wonder is govt actually protecting the guys by harassing them to keep them away from KNOWN Bigfoot activity. Seems to me the truth to Bigfoot is in Sam Houston and the govt is blocking the public.

    • Susan P

      That’s not what he said. He said there were parts of the government that were actively involved in a cover up. Not the entire government. Why is that so hard?

  18. Richard S

    Oh yeah, forgot to say welcome aboard to the new silent fans of Sasquatch Chronicles! Just do the rest of us a favor, please don’t buy up all the apparel In September, some of us have been fans since SC inception and are looking forward to wearing SC’s colors. SC has come along way since Bigfoot hotspot radio…and big brother is getting concerned about it.

  19. Charles R

    Well this is just nuts. Yes the Bfro has been harrassed with permits on several of their expeditions also in states other than Texas as well. 7 foot agent. Wonder if that is the same guy that paid the Virginia Hunter who shot a female bigfoot a visit a Thanksgiving time in 2003 in one of the early SC episodes, originally from the Cryto Crew in Kentucky. Go to court and no judge. I am sure there was a flag there though with gold fringe. These folks are just free to do what ever the heck they want. This is what happens when you get to close to the truth. I use to think that the laughing was bigfoots. If one can find the recording on Stan Courtney’s website he has a recording of kids laughing, talking and playing from 3 or 4 years ago. Quite good, except like all, one can not make out the words. As of now I am more inclined to think these are spirits of children also, but never under estimate the Forest Giant.

  20. Matt M

    Very interesting show Wes. I am very intrigued by what Bob had to say about the bigger truth that we may not want to stumble upon. It sounds like he definitely knows or suspects something and it’s unfortunate he can’t share it with us. The mystery just seems to deepen even more when I hear a very experienced and credible researcher say something like that. I could listen to Bob every week. Great show!

  22. William L

    The only thing that struck me is how can someone verify the things these feds said was law and that the said were penalties, etc. My reaction, based on how it all went down, is that I wouldn’t believe a damn word they said unless I could verify it. That said, I wouldn’t act on my disbelief of the veracity of what the said until I was sure what was true and false; the other aspect is how to verify their statements and I don’t have a friggen clue how to do that. Other than continuing where Bob and Tim left of in their searches for lawyers and just not give up and be like a bull dog until you find someone who knows what the straight skinny is. As crooked as the DOJ is from the top it will no doubt be a very difficult task and if Hillary wins the election it won’t get any easier without wheelbarrows of cash. ha ha ha

  25. maryann s

    I’m really shocked at what the special agents and rangers do. Its wrong on so many levels. How do they sleep at night knowing what they do is just plain wrong! Wow. To Bob, Mo and Tim…hang in there. We appreciate your willingness to tell your story.

  26. Jan F

    If its bigfoot that Can do stealth camoflere,then they are not from this World,but put here by U.F.Os DNA crossbread whit something.
    Just a thought.i have heard alot of whotness talking about lights before see bigfoot.
    The show monster and mysteries in America and others.

  27. Eric B

    BOOM goes the dynamite! Awesome show! Thanks to Tim and Bob for sharing what they could…….wish it was more!!! Thanks Wes, for delivering the goods!!

    • Gale R

      Count on it, just look at some of the comments. There are definitely 2 paid government shills here if not more. If you encounter them enough in forums you learn to recognize their”talking points” also they don’t come out until there is a reason to try to discredit or cast doubt on someone close to the truth. They will post under different names, ip addresses and often try to post right after another one to support the first shill. Just watch and observe.

      • Robinson W

        oh come on, guys .. you really think the government has nothing better to do than monitor the message boards of a podcast’s website? …..oh wait, guess I’m the mole now. Shucks.

  30. Christian L

    As a 20 year VETERAN and Officer it infuriates and pains me that these Federal and State GOONS have nothing better to do than harass Bigfoot enthusiasts?!?!…..not hunting drug smugglers….not hunting poachers….not hunting illegal aliens or terrorists….they expend huge amounts of manpower and taxpayer dollars harassing BIGFOOT ENTHUSIASTS?!?!? WTF !?!? There’s a Special place in HELL for beauracratic SELL-OUTS THAT WASTE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON HARMLESS US CITIZENS….this country is soo upside down….and we’re surprised that US authorities aren’t trusted?!?!

    • Letty

      I agree with Christian L. I wonder what would happen if the public knew about this or if the local media reported on the misuse of state funds looking for an “imaginary” creature. Image how ridiculous they would look if the public knew they where harassing Bigfoot enthusiasts. They would be the joke within the non-believing law enforcement agencies and citizens in Texas. I think these guys need to be exposed to public for their shenanigans.

  31. Donny Z

    To suggest a person can’t show/share or sell a file, or picture or video is a lie. I am a professional photographer, & this is a fucking lie. There is absolutely no way shape or form you could be prosecuted for this, professional photographers make livings off this. I don’t know if these guys are just that dumb, or this is all bull shit.

    • Martin Z

      I agre with you 100% Donny. I’m starting to wonder about the credibility of these sasquatch hunters myself. If the government was that adamant about suppressing the truth then why allow all these bigfoot shows on TV? You know there’s a lot of people out in these forests everyday looking for sasquatch thanx to these shows. Maybe Tim and Bob just pissed off the wrong people who knows, just my opinion. At this point very little is clear to me.

  32. michael n

    Thanks wes, mr. Garrett, mr. Sermons and the rest of the big thicket gentlemen.
    Tim, could you just give a yes or no as an answer to what Bob has said about running into something bigger than Bigfoot? Did Bob mean the Bigfoot thing is bigger than we think it is or there is something else besides Bigfoot out there?
    Its really none of my business and I dont expect you to put your neck out there just to satisfy my curiosity so if you cant or dont answer I understand.
    Hey everybody, I think we should get about a hundred of us together and all go out with bob and tim and mo etc and watch them try to handle all of us out there….lol.
    Send teams out to get some surveillance on them as they approach. Just a thought but im in if we can do it!!!

    • SantiamLady

      Haha?‼️ Yeah! Hundreds of us could stage a good ol fashion ‘sit in’ ……camp-in???⛺️ Maybe the Squatches will join us sitting around the campfire singing koombiyah! ??
      And I would hazard a guess that the “something we don’t want to know” is most likely something the shadow gov’t is up to out there somewhere. Ever read ” Squallies”? ?

  33. Richard C

    Not sure if someone else mentioned this, but isn’t it kinda odd, that the Poacher that they turned in, just happened to have his court date on the same day they called Bob in? Wonder if the Agents in the courtroom were pointing out to the poacher, that hey, those are the guys that turned you in? Might suspicious if you ask me.

      • SantiamLady

        Yeah! Turn in a dangerous criminal & we’ll be sure to point you out to him as the people who ratted him out! Oh, and while you’re at it, it’s okay if you take groups into the areas where the most aggressive Sqautches live……you know……the place where campers & hikers disappear, or are found in pieces???? Yeah. You guys can go there as much as you want!
        What????? They’re still alive?! Sigh…… Time for another Squatchers Raid, I guess.

  34. Bruce D

    Great show! Plain and simple, these people, agents, whatever, needed to pick Bobs brain and Tim’s, etc., to learn more about sasquatch. So, they took whatever means possible to get that info.

  35. Robert H

    This what Bob and Tim need to do is. Look up a guy named Winston Shrout solutions in commerce. He’s a educator on sovereignty law. There is plenty you guys can do to everyone involved that has hassled you guys. But if you don’t know the laws you can’t do nothing. Take a look at this guys stuff. But just operating in the unified commercial code then your at there mercy.

  36. Stan B

    Sorry but I don’t believe Garrett one bit, never have never will. He’s all talk, for all your supposed encounters you have no evidence of their existence whatsoever. They’re way to many gullible people in this subject who are being taken for mugs. It’s a fact bigfoot is becoming a money machine and it’s being exploited bigtime. It’s so sad to see it gets me angry, wake up people please!

    • ANGELA B

      Agree completely Stan.Bob Garret sees bigfoot more than most people see birds in their backyard,yet never has any proof.I am a paying member,like the stories,and do believe the occasional encounter with something unknown may occur.The stories about packs of bigfoot terrorizing people in their homes and the govt giving a shit about imaginary creatures is ridiculous.Not everyone who listens is a believer,sorry if that doesnt put me in the majority.

    • Martin Z

      Stan I have been listening to SC for a few years now and I have heard Tim and Bob talk about all these (clear) pics and video they have but aren’t ready to show it. That sounds like bullshit to me. I know a lot of people may get angry at me for that but where’s the proof! Don’t say you have pics and or video unless you plan on showing it. I’ve heard guest after guest talk about the pics they have but never show it.

      • Steven J

        Martin Z,

        Well, as another fellow SC listener, I can speak to the video and pics. What I was shown is fairly good and clear. Its very clear, just only about 3 seconds of visibility as far as the drone footage shows. Its up to them as to if the release and when, but I can independently confirm the footage exists.

        • sandy r

          But of course now they claim they can’t release anything because they have been warned of fines and imprisonment because money can’t exchange hands. Plenty of ways to show footage without money exchanging hands. When something doesn’t pass the smell test it’s hard not to want to call foul. I just don’t know anymore?

    • Greg C

      Yup I don’t believe him either ,u tell a law enforcement officer somebody is getting shot at ,and they don’t care ,that’s bullshit ,and somebody taking bullets out of trees ,that’s bullshit

  37. Charles K

    Remember this incident when your undecided about joining the NRA or any other 2nd amendment watchdog. They fight for our rights. Rights that may soon go the way of the T-Rex.

  38. m99

    ~A guy I talked to said a Park Ranger called him & during their conversation said he (the ranger) had been doing rounds in a remote area & heard a helicopter, turned, saw a large cage with a squatch in it, fly overhead and disappear. The man telling me this said the ranger said, apparently “they were releasing it back into the woods”, and assumed it was after research was done on it. The ranger is a state park ranger. He guy I spoke to was a BF witness who had an encounter on the Neches River. I asked that guy one question after another and he never misspoke, studdered, nothing. I believed him.

    _I’m thinking, the woodpecker in question is the Ivory Billed, endangered:

    https://www.fws.gov/ivorybill/pdf/IBW-general-brochure.pdf

    @the 7′ agent – bet he was a reptilian…

  41. F S

    Monitizatiion of US National Parks without the correct permits is illegal. These guests said it themselves “you can’t earn money from anything derived from federally owned land”. This land belongs to the American Public. Permits to run businesses on these lands are excruciatingly long and complicated. In fact, there are entire companies who’s only job is to help businesses win federal contracts. To iniciate a new service that has never been offered at these locations requires everything from environmental impact studies to public RFPs – and price is just one factor in the decision making process.
    With the number of “researchers” and “experts” jumping on the Bigfoot bandwagon, and charging people to visit these parks, Rangers and BLM employees MAY BE cracking down upon those involved.
    What if people went info Yellowstone and started cutting down trees and selling them for Christmas? How about booking an entire camp site for the Fourth of July, then charging people to stay in your reserved spots? Maybe we could take a production company to Mt. Shasta to make a movie? These are all illegal without going through the appropriate channels.
    It also did not help things when Mr. Garret lied to these men.
    You can find out more about how to do business in US Parks all over the Internet.
    Just like the Rangers said: “Any size group is welcome in the park – just as long as no money is being made.”, and “You can do what you want on private land, as long as the owner allows it.”

  42. F S

    BTW – if there already is a problem with narco trafficking, poaching, and other illegal activity – that could account for the gunfire.

    I DO BELIEVE IN BIHFOOT. I just think we would look at the simplest answer first.
    “If you hear hoof steps in Central Park, don’t look for zebras – look for horses.”

  43. Amy M

    I’m concerned that Bob and Mo and company weren’t able to get a lawyer for their court day. The first rule of court is get a lawyer – even a bad lawyer is better than none. Lawyers may laugh at the ticket or the notion of Sasquatch but they will still take your money. I doubt that they would have been forced to take a deal or had charges added after the fact or (shudder) would be denied an appearance before a judge if they had legal representation. Was is because they were tapped out monetarily or because they refused the case outright? Why?

    • sandy r

      Bob said in the trailer he didn’t and wouldn’t talk anymore to the agent because he wanted his lawyer. He said he even picked up his phone and was told to put it down, who was he calling if he didn’t have a lawyer to call about his situation? Why wouldn’t the lawyer Bob was calling in in trailer take his case? Lawyers will take your money they don’t care. There is more to it then lawyers laughing it off. Yes it is laughable and should not happen but this is why you get lawyers so your not rail loaded once you get into court. Once they saw you didn’t have a lawyer or once they heard through your tapped phones they knew they could do what they want.

  45. m99

    @FS All that is correct AND the guys know it. The problem was, THEY WERE TOLD IT WAS OKAY TO ASSEMBLE WITH PEOPLE UNDER THE NUMBER 25 or less. AS well the fact they weren’t given representation stinks. The constitution is a joke anymore.

  46. Pete M

    Sounds like they were issued citations with monetary penalties at stake. First, the only way they were gonna have representation is if they could find a lawyer willing to take the case and second, they paid him out of pocket. This ain’t the type of situation where you are “given” representation. BTW, no one is ever given representation, people that pay taxes end up footing the bill. No such thing as a free lunch.

  47. jason b

    The big thickett llc? what a joke. their mission was not to educate people their mission was to make money by charging people to go camping in a state or national park. if you guys really wanted to educate people you would provide real evidence on a public forum for FREE. I don’t know why everyone seems to believe that your group goes out into the woods and knows exactly where sasquatches are but yet you all haven’t showed any proof to any of us. I can’t fault you for wanting to make money, but the way you guys are doing it is just like a televangelist. You are exploiting the beliefs of others to line your pockets and it isn’t right. Wes i love your show and the forum and i am not saying this to be mean, i’m saying this because it is how i feel. I’m sure people will jump on me for posting this but i really don’t believe these guys at all. And it’s good to question anything that sounds to good to be true, such as someone saying they know right where to go to find sasquatches. Again if you guys aren’t lying and really do have proof, I’ll take back everything negative i have said in the past but since y’all ain’t showed any proof yet, i stand firm on that i believe you are scamming all the people that come to you. Wes you even said back when will and shannon were on the show that “you should be skeptical of anyone who claims to have had multiple encounters” so i hope you fellow listeners don’t think bad of me for voicing how i feel.

    • Christian L

      Great points…..I gotta say I’m losing faith in Bob G and friends…..maybe they’re being tactful/strategic with when/how/where they will be releasing their vast amounts of “evidence” that will crush the Feds trying to downplay BF…..but as William Shakspear said…..”somethings fishy in Denmark”…..

    • F S

      I would also respectfully ask that these researchers who claim to have all this evidence RELEASE IT.
      When I hear claims of “real” definitive images, recordings, and video clips, but then hear “but we can’t share them”, my eyes glaze over, and I discount their claims.
      Put up or shut up.

      • sandy r

        Yes, it’s getting old, I have pictures, video ect…but can’t release yet because of… Bull you don’t have it. Release it under assumed
        Name, there are ways you can do it if you want to “prove it” but if your looking for money gain well that is where your running into problems, isn’t it? If MIB are harassing people than money would be hard to collect on but at this point of the game I would want proof out there over money to shut up MIB, FEDS, who ever is trying to keep this from coming out.

  48. Black-YETI

    My freaking internet sucks here so I only heard 20 min of the show. I will download later and listen. But I read the comments and feel like others…if you have proof show it. If I am living in Colorado and go looking for this thing I will be the first on to contact the discovery channel and show what proof I have. I will be in the San Juan mtns and South of Pike’s peak. I do not expect to see one but if I do an arrow or lead will be headed down range. I will take pics cut off a hand cut off a foot pull a few teeth and walk out. I will come on this show and talk to Wes FIRST.

  49. Black-YETI

    Unless your living on Mars people..who shoots 2 bf in Texas and the guy in Virginia shoots one in a tree and does not get some blood hair or something????? Even a redneck cuts off the antlers and brings them home.
    There must be some pussified men out there today? There ain’t an animal on this planet me and my 2 friends would be afraid to track and hunt down if we were properly armed for the situation. Please have any of you seen what a rifled slug or load of copper plated 3 inch buckshot will do to any living thing??? Like I said grow a set people. I’m sure here are people on here who have seen combat in nam Iraq and in afg. Tell me your afraid of some darn monkey and I will buy the beers after that loud mouth furry stupid monkey is hanging from a meat pole.

  51. Marybelle H

    Perhaps law enforcement had other investigations going on in that area and they created an excuse to get the Bigfoot group removed, as well as verify that they were not involved in other activities. I made the mistake of reporting suspicious behavior in my neighborhood years ago (mid 1990’s). I say mistake because I ended up being very rudely interrogated and my house being watched for several weeks. (No I wasn’t imagining a guy sitting in an unmarked car in front of my house and following me as I ran errands and the like.) About a month later the police busted the neighbors that I had called about, for selling drugs and fencing stolen goods. The police stopped watching me after the bust was over, but the whole experience was so upsetting to me that I now hesitate to contact law enforcement.

  52. Mo M

    I’ve had to make many tough decisions these past few months regarding my relationship with BTW, but in the end, the best decision for me in good conscience was to part ways. I’m fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet all of the amazing people on each of the expeditions and to learn from each one of you. It was an honor to do all the cooking for you and to take you out to those awesome spots to get really good evidence. I truly feel blessed and I hope we can stay in touch. You can contact me any time, I will always be there for you.

    Regarding the refunds to participants, I was originally informed that everyone had received a full refund but I have learned that was simply not true. Because I was not kept in the loop as a co-founding partner of the BTW LLC, I was never granted access to the financial statements until the very end by one of the co founders. Otherwise, I would have done everything in my power to make sure refunds were immediately issued. I would first like to offer my heartfelt apology to all those who were negatively impacted in any way while on the final expedition and to those who did not receive a full refund as they were promised by the BTW. If you did not receive a refund or have any concerns, please email me or call me. I will personally speak with each person. Although I have no access to BTW funds, I feel morally obligated to make sure the right thing is done and I will do what I can within my power to try and remedy this.

    Thank you for your understanding and support.

  53. Dave T

    I’m surprised you even came on here Mo with all the bashing going on. Good Luck with the book and keep us posted about December. I might be inclined to stop in for your party.

  55. F S

    Wes:
    As a fan and a paid supporter of SC, I and other members would like to know where you stand with the issue of money not being refunded to the Big Thicket participants?
    You advertised these trips. You recommended this group to your supporters – numerous times. You personally vouched for mot only the integrity of these people, but for their character and follow through.
    Wes?

    • Kathryn C

      FS What other members? Wes does not owe anyone an apology or opinion on this matter. Who are you FS? I have to say I don’t trust you after reading many of your comments. Do you live underground? Like where moles live??? Just curious.

    • Gumshoguy

      FS – Where besides in Hillary’s world, “it takes a village to raise a child,” does it say anyone should be required to control how seriously others they take their responsibilities? People have free will to make choices. I do not and will not allow others to make choices for me. I wasn’t a participant of that fiasco but some were – their choice, not yours, not mine. You’re beginning to sound like a provocateur rather than a paid supporter get my drift? What occurred was very dumb, disappointing and unfortunate so why not let it rest now?

  56. Reed D

    Great show Wes. Really well done. Thanks.
    I hope you were just kidding when ya said you didnt want to sound like Trump! Don’t morph into a liberal on us, you’re to good of a man!

    Thanks buddy, great job.

    Reed

  57. Simon P

    I agree with the people who are asking for some sort of evidence from these guys. The various excuses of not being able to release or show any evidence are starting to wear a bit thin.

    If you can’t back up your claim, it’s better not to make it in the first place.

  58. Tammy S

    I listen to every single one of the SC episodes and live vicariously through every story told. This one disappointed me because of the first few statements made. The guys were defending charging fees saying it was to feed the participants. I looked into the cost of going on one of these trips. It was a large hunk of money by any standards. I assure you, a professional NFL defensive lineman could not eat enough in one weekend, a 3 or 4 day weekend, to justify the amount they were charging per person. Tim and Bob were making good money taking people on these trips. I think this the only time I did not listen till the end, hanging on every word. While I have no doubt they were unfairly treated by the powers that be, Tim and Bob were obviously trying to justify what was an exorbitant amount of money for a weekend of food. Otherwise, Wes, no other show compares. I love Sasquatch Chronicles.

  59. Kathryn C

    Wow, nothing like kicking Bob and the other guys when they’re down. I was cringing while reading many of the replies. I just want to be on record that I think Bob and those kickass Texas cowboys are awesome. Bob has taken so much time with SC answering questions and telling some pretty close to the heart stories of his adventures. These have been my favorite shows. He has treated Wes and all of us as a friend with no malice in his heart, asking for nothing in return, and this is his payback. I’m sure he felt like a friend to many of the readers of SC but it makes me sick to think of him reading these thoughtless and untrue comments about his character. I will be very surprised if he or the other cowboys want anything more to do with SC other than remaining a friend to Wes.

  60. Nick H

    I am a believer not a knower… this is because of the way that Wes and previous hosts of the SC treat people with respect during the interviews even when I have rolled my eyes at a few of the guests, but the general overall testimonies in themselves is enough to warrant such a belief. Having said that, unless we all see these creatures with our own two eyes of course we are skeptics, thats human nature and this makes a possible Government coverup easier to do. I also want to see this evidence, there are ways to release it on the internet and share the links. I wish BTW and crew all the best.

  61. Kathryn C

    Oh, and who the hell cares what they charged? Where else in the WORLD could a person get escorted and guarded to have the opportunity to maybe see and hear a sasquatch?? That is absolutely priceless. Plus once you deduct the cost of purchasing the chuck wagon and other incidentals such as gas and food, these guys are taking their time, maybe away from families, to be there for what, 2 or 3 days?? I would guess if you figured out cost, deducting the overhead costs, the guys maybe each ended up with 5 bucks an hour, but probably not that much. It is their personal business and why anyone would care about that is so ridiculous. I don’t think it’s a crime yet in America for a guy to offer a service and get paid something for it. Get real…..

  62. pam

    How could BTW LLC refund $ when they were not allowed to talk to any of the participants? NOW they are able to contact them so let’s wait and see,eh?

  63. Black-YETI

    Now that I listened to the entire show I can speak better.
    I’m not saying anything about Bob and money. If they wanted to make money more power to them.
    But I do know this…if I tried to guide duck hunters on public land let’s say and charged them 100 dollars a day the state would have an issue as you can’t do that.

    Now I myself have had run ins with the DNR on issues like state land vs private property. To this day they still are trying to tell me that a public hunting tract is not public. Even though the state supplied maps show it clearly that’s it’s owned by the state. So I’m not against the notion that they may have singled Bob out.
    Don’t ever ever ever get lawyers involved. They are over all on a team that we are not part of.
    There are more legal decions made exparte then you will ever know. Lots of small local towns are so corrupt that the law means nothing.
    A small fine as long as it’s not a felony just pay the ticket and learn from it.
    The govt is not using that patch of woods to test any future combat system there period. Dugway and white sands have plenty of land for that.
    Now just on Bigfoot. I love the show and can’t wait for each episode. Some of the call in descriptions are great and people sound truthful as they beleive they saw something.
    This big thicket activity if real is truly something. I can see the situation where the govt may have their head so far up their ass on this subject that they seek civi help.
    Unless hundreds and thousands of people are just making stuff up as to seeing this thing I don’t know?
    I do think something is out there and would hope anyone with good evidence would come forward with it.
    Just someone throw us all some bread crumbs please as we are starving for the truth, plain and simple.

  64. Marybelle H

    Both the Ivory Billed Woodpecker and the Red Cockaded Woodpecker are on the endangered species list and the habitats cover some of this area. The Ivory Billed was thought to be extinct since the 1940’s. The evidence is still inclusive, but there have been several sporadic sightings recently.

  65. Marybelle H

    Okay listening to this episode again today. Bob lied to the authorities and instructed his clientele to lie (minute 46). Uh, yikes, this was an investigation on the BTW group. When setting up a business hire a lawyer and do your fact checking. Bummer all of this had to happen.

  66. Black-YETI

    I need a SC t shirt and a bumper sticker for my truck. If people see it in Colorado I’m sure someone will make a comment to me. I hope to get some locals drop some info in my lap.

  68. Greg T

    Not sure where to even start on this one. There’s so many viewpoints on this post that I would auto-pay my 6 month renewal to listen and then read all of this. Wait… I guess I already auto-payed. I found this show in January and have binge listened to every new and archived episode because it’s the most entertaining show with the best information and best interviews. I’ve always believed but didn’t sit around on a computer surfing the web for stuff, rather watched any tv show like a junkie even though I knew they would rationalize the idea of sasquatch away at the end. Then I saw the Survivorman shows with Todd Standing so I looked into his stuff. Finally came across Wes. In summary, if you show up with evidence that looks real, it will be called fake (maybe it is, maybe it isn’t, but it will be called the same); if you claim to have shot one and show your stuff to the discovery channel so you can be rich, you will be made to look like a numbnut (maybe you are or aren’t, but you will look like one); and if you have any other podshow, your interviews will be boring. I’ve listened to a bunch and those folks just aren’t as good on the radio. So where does that leave us? If you call bs on the BTW, then get call out Bear and Coonbo because they have more in their backyard than I have squirrels in mine. Then call out Wes because he had on an insider that validated Bob Garrett’s interactions; so if one is full of bs, they’re all full of bs.

    But….. if one of them is telling the truth, then the whole thing is real. I haven’t seen, but I believe. I know a few that have told me things that sure fit what I hear on these shows. Recently a friend was telling me that their mom was selling their house and 14 acres near Livingston, TX (pretty close to the Sam). I said, “does she have bigfoot on her property?” The couple’s immediate response, in unison, was “she thinks she does.” They thought I was joking but I’ve never said anything like that to them before. As I started to hear all of the different interviews on SC, I was thinking that full evidence was eminent; then I was like Black Yeti and my .338 and I would hang anything from the meat pole and not give two shits (and BY, by the way, I’ll be south of Delta in the north part of the Uncompahgre NF during the 3rd rifle season and you’re welcome at my camp); and then I thought, why would I screw everything up? If I saw one or had to shoot one now, I wouldn’t produce any public evidence. Most of the public are idiots and will believe the govt spin on things. For the rest of the population, the evidence wouldn’t be quite good enough. It’s a wonder anyone comes on this show because they’re always ripped by at least some as lying. But, if only one of them are telling the truth, then for me, it’s worth listening. Keep up the good work, Wes.

    And PS: if I ever see a Leprechaun and decide to shoot it, I will probably burn one of my turkey tags on him. The deal is, if something isn’t real, then it’s not against the law to shoot one. But, it never hurts to say that you thought it was a turkey. But I bet that a leprechaun stinks worse than a turkey when you gut him. Actually, I’ll probably just stomp it into the mud after ground checking it just like he was one duck over the limit.

  69. Jim L

    For me this is the most powerful evidence and it took Bob and Tim a lot of courage to tell the story. And your courage to release it on your show. If it’s bigger than Sasquatch, what the hell is the government covering up in those woods!

  70. Michael C

    Aren’t there tv channels devoted to making millions of dollars off the Federal lands around the country? All of the hunting, guiding, outfitting that goes on across the country does exactly what they were told they can not do. Total BS This is a free country and Federal Forrest land is our land or at least it should be.

  71. Tracy G

    @ MichaelC,,,,PERMITS! PERMITS! YOU MUST HAVE THE PROPER PERMITS BEFORE YOU CAN PERFORM ANY MONEYMAKING OR NON MONEYMAKING VENTURE ON FEDERAL LANDS! EVEN BIOLOGISTS RESEARCHING OWLS,FOXES,SNAKES,LIZARDS,ETC,MUST HAVE THE PROPER PERMITS ! IT’S THE SAME THING AS PROSPECTING FOR MINERALS ON FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAND! PERMITS!!!
    Why can’t you people open your eyes and see that BTW broke the law,and paid for it?!
    And I’m sick of this Government cover up,conspiracy bullshit!
    It’s just like fishing without having a fishing license! If you get caught,and get a ticket for it,that doesn’t mean that the government is”After You”!
    It means you did something stupid by breaking the law,and you got caught!
    BTW did something stupid,and got caught.

  72. Dave T

    My $.02: There’s no doubt mistakes were made before the BTW venture started and after. It’s too bad it went down the way it did for everyone involved. I think these are all good guys and should be treated as such. I think their intentions were good and they wanted to share with people the amazing things they were experiencing around these creatures. The thing that amazes me is all the people that think these guys should do this for free. Why shouldn’t they make something for all their hard work and years of learning about these creatures? Why should they just give it away? I wouldn’t.
    As for the evidence they have, what is the benefit of releasing it to get trampled on by even some of the people on here. There hasnt been one pic or video yet that hasn’t been called fake or a hoax including the best footage of all time, the Patterson Gimmlin film. There’s probably people here that believe that footage is fake so why would you be any different with what Bob has. He knows that. There’s people out here just chomping at the bit to call his evidence a hoax no matter how good it is. There’s nothing to gain so why do it? There’s people out here that already have their minds made up and nothing will change it. Others are here just to cause trouble and stir the pot. I hope most recognize this and don’t join the mob. It devalues SC and makes it less attractive for people to come and share their stories/encounters.

    • SantiamLady

      I’ve seen some absolutely jaw-dropping Sasquatch footages on YouTube. If I didn’t already believe, I would have started after seeing even one of those videos! Like the PG footage, you can just tell you’re looking at a living, breathing animal. Not a guy in a suit, or a shadow, or a tree stump.
      These different videos are few and far in between, but as far as I know, they are still on YouTube. No conspiracy pulled them down.
      I don’t know how to post links to stuff, but the most impressive ones were: 1) taken by a farmer in woods near his farm, Missouri, I think. Chilling footage that made me gasp out loud when I watched it! . 2) a man’s little dog running after a Sasquatch near his driveway. The BF ran from this yapping Yorkie! Hilarious, and very clearly a living, bipedal, fur covered large animal. 3) a Sasquatch running across a field beside a road, film from a car, somewhere in Canada, I think. 4) and the famous July 4th footage, no idea where filmed, but CLEARLY depicts a parent Sasquatch nervously retrieving a very young Sas from its hiding place behind a boulder. You can see the parent’s obvious anxiety, throwing glances at the camera, and finally scooting out to rescue junior, picking baby up, more nervous glances at the camera, you see baby Sas actually kiss the parent’s face as its picked up! A few moments behind the Boulder, cradling baby, and peeking at te camera. Then parent bolts, carrying baby, out from behind Boulder moving quickly and smoothly into the trees and is lost from sight.
      Anyway, my point was that these VERY convincing videos were posted on YouTube, and still are, I think, and no conspiracy swooped in to pull them down.
      Just saying……

  74. MONTE M

    Wow ! Another Barn Burner . I love The Big Thicket guys and just recently listened to an episode of The Big Thicket Watch , excellent . They played Ozzy and Johnny Cash !
    I get a lot of crap from my whole family for believing in Sasquatch . You’ll notice people who know do not refer to Sasquatch as a phenomenon as much they do a subject because they know it is a reality . Great show guys thanks . You can’t make this shit up and tell it like they just told it and then cross reference what their guest who traveled to Texas said about the expedition . Wes ,The Big Thicket guys and other researchers are out there bringing forth grass roots reality of Sasquatch .

    • MONTE M

      Good question and that as he said would cause many questions and speculation . I assume it has to possibly do with coverup . A theme here with what the Big Thicket Watch guys have spoke openly about all along on SQ is being harassed . Bob had come across a torn up camp with fatalities and made video evidence of it and posted it on his Utube channel . Story goes – torn up camp with dead guys out in the sticks of the Big Thicket . Way out there in the forest . Bob calls authorities and tells what he’s come across and stays at the scene cause it’s a grim scene with alleged fatalities like a guy up in a tree and a head tore off etc . So they stick around until authorities get there and it takes a good ten hours or more for them to respond . Bob sais they don’t want to respond that law enforcement hates dealing with this stuff partly because it doesn’t exist .There are a lot of deaths and missing persons in The Big Thicket , an alarming amount of that going on and the bigger reason is Sasquatch . Then this big cover up takes place and ” the men in black finally show up out in the middle of Timbucktwo and start driving large vehicles all over and thru the camp and make it look like these guys were accidently killed by a vehicle that ran over their tent . So they destroy all evidence of Sasquatch being rubbed the wrong way and handing these squatchers their ass . It is not a safe sport / hobby . Bob posts this video evidence on his Utube channel and his family and Tim start getting harassed and intimidated along with the Utube channel being shut down . This is conveyed in an interview by Wes and Bob on SQ . So Iam assuming he’s talking about this subject in its entirety as he knows it and he knows more than most . As Bob stated they are asking him questions that they want answers on about Sasquatch . Well you don’t get those types of answers in an office in a Federal Building you get them out in the dark where your camp can get tore all to hell and your head popped off . So I think Bob would love to tell us what he’s talking about but has been openly threatened with ” if it happened on Public Lands then you are going to be prosecuted and are going to jail in wich you will probably be subject to same sex non marriage with a 7 ft part hairy creature and a tube of tooth paste ” so you can’t blame him for not wanting to come right out and say what he was referring to . I think it was the sasquatch subject and its cover up as a whole . I have read in USA Today that any picture even just any photo at all of Public Lands like say a picture of Yosemite Park or San Dunes National Monument etc . is not something you I or anyone else can go and make money off of . It is against the law . A ten year old citizen of The USA can not take a picture of Mesa Verde National Monument and sell it to say a Company that uses it on a calendar that they sell at Wal Mart . Any image taken on public land is not your property to use as income so the Govt has any and every right to that image .

  76. MONTE M

    Furthermore it will be very hard for someone to prove that conclusive imagery taken on private land was actually taken on private land . A US forest service road is not private property even if the land on either side of the ditch is privately owned . Game wardens can and will go anywhere in the U.S including private property and your garage freezer where you may or may not have over your limit of Trout , Illegally grown Marijuana or a dead Sasquatch body in your freezer .
    Say you get very conclusive video evidence on private land . Great ! Now prove that it was taken on private land . Now get summoned to court without a judge in it and threatened with going to prison because they tell you your Utube video was not taken on uncle Eds back fourty private pasture . They are going to do what they want and threaten anyone who dares against them even on private land . Bob Garett and others have together collectively have enough video and physical evidence to prove the existence of sasquatch to the world . It becomes a very intimidating task when your wife starts getting harassed .
    People are in the pursuit of happiness and being harassed and threatened by the Federal Govt and going to prison is not a fun thing . People simply need disclosure for their own personal safety . Do you want to take your Boyscout troup hiking in Yellowstone Park where a known healthy population of grizzly bears are known to make their home ? Hell no . If you do and some kid gets killed well then at least you knew the dangers and it was a bad decision on your part to do so .

  77. James (Waylon) Johnson

    For us shooting a Sasquatch has always been considered a last resort. Learning their patterns and behavior has always been paramount in everything we do. You don’t learn much about behavior from dead things typically. Nature is fickle that way. Also, the fact that there tend to always be multiple individuals in the areas that we investigate changes the game when you consider what will happen after a shot is taken. Ever watched Congo? Perfect just think bigger and badder. The only survivable scenario would be if you happened upon a loan bachelor, which I believe tend to be sub-alpha males or deposed alpha males or ostracized females like the Old Lady at Greystone.
    As for myself fear has much less a part to play than common sense and mutually healthy respect. What if we lit up the forest and hit nothing? What happens to the next person hiking the Lonestar Trail or the family camping in a primitive campground? There’s much more to consider and if you don’t take those matters into account you’re just a fool with a rifle, plenty of those never make it home here.

  78. James (Waylon) Johnson

    As far as releasing any photographic or video evidence is concerned my question is why? Even I don’t believe any of that type of evidence will ever be enough to convince a die hard skeptic let a lone the scientific community at large. If you don’t think we have ever released anything than you haven’t looked very hard. For the most part it’s a waste of time except to provide fodder for further debate. Folks are encouraged to go out and get their own in which case in the course of time you will realize that your evidence typically only confirms your own research findings and hunches. However the best confirmation is personal experience and direct observation for which there will never be any substitute. At some point we may continue guest expeditions, obviously 1000% free of charge or monetary exchange. Skeptics are always welcome.

  79. Adam K

    I have a question. You had between 14 and 25 people at this site. All of them have audio and video equipment out the ying yang for sasquatch, and not a single person got video or audio of this Fed raid? Not even footage of their tail lights when they left?

  80. James (Waylon) Johnson

    They arrived in the early afternoon while people were still unpacking their gear and setting up camp, few were prepared for what happened. I personally never carry audio or video gear because honestly I just don’t care to be distracted by it on the trail. I can’t speak for the others but as quickly as folks were segregated and told to stay put and not move, reaching for electronic devises with armed agents watching you would be considered I’ll-advised by many folks. I know Steven J mentioned that he was tempted to turn on his camera.

  81. Stan B

    Lol Garrett doesn’t share anything with anyone, he charges you for it. Another lol we weren’t going to make any money out of it. C’mon don’t kid the kid thats kidded thousands, it’s a huge cash cow i mean groceries are not that expensive. You were trying to make an illegal buck, without a license game over, end of, just quit the BS. For all your so called evidence give me concrete proof of it’s existence as we never have seen anything never! All we hear is jus talk..

  82. Stan B

    Garrett The only reason you cannot show us your evidence is because you don’t have anything! Holding something back that would be a worldwide event and you can’t show it = BS. And worse of all you’re both a pair of grasses, i hope the poachers kick your backsides!

    • James (Waylon) Johnson

      You guys are always welcome to come check it out on your own and decide for yourselves. I’m sure you realize that at this point you are basically calling everyone that was there or that has been out with us and had some experiences liars as well. Including Wes and a handful of veteran and resoecter researchers in their own right.

  83. Adam K

    Everyone carries video/audio equipment, it’s called a cellphone. They go in a pocket for convenience. Just 1 person out of the whole group could have made this story believable.

  84. Adam K

    I’m not trying to be a jerk, but the stories keep getting more and more conspiracy oriented without a shred of proof. I can understand if you don’t have evidence of sasquatch, but if lately you’re encountering the law more than sasquatch, I’d think someone could get something, even if it’s just audio. I want to believe Bob, but I’m at the point where he’s got to put something on the table.

  86. Teresa L

    All I can say is this whole thing is BS! Can’t believe Bob and crew paid and did what they wanted!? It was all a BLUFF even lawyer’s said it was BS!! Come on don’t fall for that shit, those poor people that paid good money stuffer over this. I believe Bob but hate that he let them scare him after lawyer’s told him this was BS. The BFRO can do it because they work hand in hand with the feds to miss lead people away from Bigfoot with all the dumb shit they do!! Sorry all this took place. You can’t go to court over something that they won’t admit is real!!! The day they do game over proves they are real! Hope all is well. Like to hear from Bob on the show it’s been awhile thanks Wes.

  87. Meredith C

    The Big Thicket Guys accepted money to take people out and also feed their “customers”.
    The Govt knew the attendees paid for services.
    The Govt made it impossible for the Big Thicket guys to provide services.
    The Govt laid the groundwork for The Big Thicket’s “customers” to sue them for services not rendered. The big clue was MAKING the guys remove the food as well as leaving clients in the woods unattended.
    They were also attempting to discredit The Big Thicket guys.
    I guess their “dastardly grand plan” was an epic failure. I would go as far to say that it majorly backfired on them.
    Go Big Thicket!!

  88. L S

    People work hard, so when they’re on vacation it’s a crime to waste their time like this. If you’re not under arrest and you’re not being detained and you have done noting wrong, LEAVE. Those bastards should be fired or sued. It’s legal malpractice and it’s bullying. Thanks for making this PUBLIC!

  89. L S

    When does ????law enforcement???? leave people out in the middle of nowhere where they have to walk past where they just got shot at? ????

    When does ????law enforcement???? not care that people are getting shot at? ????????

    When they, LAW IN-FORCE-MENT, are the A-HOLES SHOOTING at the people. ????????????

    BUNCH OF DAMN CRIMINALS ???????? and PSYCHOPATHS

  90. L S

    That poacher thing, that I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine” thing, the poacher it the courtroom on the same day thing?

    That was intentional.

    • L S

      Asking you to narc on the cartel? That psychopath “agent” was trying to get you killed. INTENTIONALLY.

      Just shows, they don’t care about poachers, the cartels, OR people being shot at. So called “law enforcement agents.” Nothin but a bunch of psychopath losers.

  91. L S

    Those misdated tickets? That was also intentional. They were creating a document that would immediately be thrown out and it would go no further. Intentionally. It was all about harrassment. Period. They didn’t want this in court. Their Criminal behavior would have been discovered. When people don’t know or exercise their rights, the mob gets away with whatever terms they cook up. When you comply because you are under the impression that they hold the power, they hold the power. I hope you didn’t pay their mob fees. Would have been interesting to see them try to collect.

  92. L S

    The child laughter, my take on that is Sasquatch likes to watch children playing. Sasquatch imitates sounds. It’s either young child Sasquatches Or adult Sasquatches imitating children’s voices. I like to go for the most simple and obvious answer.

  93. L S

    “They didn’t change when man changed.” BINGO.

    They are relic hominids.

    We are GMO (Genetically Modified Organisms).

    They are the Origional humans. They’ve been here a lot longer than we have. We just “appeared” a little over 200,000 years ago. That’s why we can’t find the “missing link.” There is no missing link. The DNA was “fiddled with.”

    They evolved with this earth. They are perfectly designed to thrive in its environment. We are not. Hairless and weak, we need constructs in order to survive. We are unlike anything else dwelling on the surface of this planet. You gotta ask yourself WHY. Answer: We did not EVOLVE. We APPEARED. Suddenly. We are GMOs. And like all other GMOs, we are a threat to our surroundings. We are not designed to thrive with the natural and inevitable changes of the environment. One big problem with GMO food is that it cannot thrive with climate and pest changes like ancient, naturally evolved plant foods can. The concern is that if we rely heavily on GMOs and one small tweek in the environment happens, all our food dies and we starve because we have not been cultivating the plant foods that are resilient since they evolved with the earth for millions of years. And yeah, this situation we find ourselves in is intentional too. It’s like when your parents say, “I gave you life and I can take you out.”

  95. Del Nacho

    The episode opens up with Steve telling his side of the story, with the 6-8 vehicles approaching their camp site. Can anyone point me to that episode or where to find it? Thanks!

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