Jun 24

SC EP:446 Military veteran shares his encounters

I grew up in Arizona. At age 18 I joined the navy and began a 21 year career.

I have wanted to share my experiences since my first experience in 1972. The only people I have shared these experiences with is my family, my mom and children. I have attached my experience:

Willow Creek California
Mid Afternoon
My first encounter occurred while visiting a family friend in Willow Creek California in early June 1972.

While visiting, my twin brother, and two family friends daughters went hiking on an old logging trail located behind the friend’s house. We hiked about 1 hour up this road and were getting ready to turn around, when off to the road in a small gulley filled with ferns. We all stood on the road looking up the gulley after we had heard some grunting noises. Setting about 150 feet from us was a tall creature with long dark brown hair. The creature was standing among the ferns I think it was eating the tops of young ferns. It just stood watching us for about 1 minute, then it grunted. The girls we were with said that we needed to go so we left, I remember running all the way back to the house. When we told the girl’s parents the father was concerned and told us not to go back up the road. On our way to my aunt’s house in Gresham Oregon, I remember my mom telling me that her friend’s husband called a couple of men and they went up the road. She also said that he turned on the electric fence around their black berry/boson berry patch. He told my mom and her friend that he did that to keep out the bears.

The creature as I remember was about 7 feet tall with long dark brown hair. I could not tell if it was male or female. It seemed more interested in the ferns than us. At no time do I remember feeling threatened. However, my mom said that my twin brother and I had nightmares and began to walk in our sleep. Mom always felt that what happened or whatever we saw in Willow Creek caused these problems.

November 1978
Near Sedona Arizona
Around 10:00pm
This encounter was very short and happened on Highway 89A between Sedona and Cottonwood Arizona near a bridge crossing a place called Dry Creek.

While driving home from work around 10:00PM we were following a car. My mom was driving and she asked me why there was some guy running down the road and should we stop. Then this individual took two steps and crossed the road right in front of us. My mom slammed on the brakes to keep from hitting this individual and she said to me did you see the size of that guy and boy he could really jump.

The most interesting thing she said was “I think that was a big foot”. I just looked at her and she said, oh yeah I remember my grandfather talking about them being around here. Her grandfather was a rancher in the area of the Mogollon Rim. This was very interesting because this was the first time she ever mentioned it. I have talked with my family in the area and they told me that there are places near Flagstaff Arizona at a place called Rogers Lake that they do not like going there, because weird thing happened there and that the Great Grand Pa said not to go there.

The individual we saw that night as I remember was between 6 and 7 feet tall. Long dark hair and very muscular. He crossed the road and disappeared down the side of the gulley. We did not stop and continued home. We never talked about that night much but mom always believed that Bigfoot always existed.

September 1998
In the Otay Mesa area of San Diego County.
While camping with my son and three of his friends about 10 miles off I-8 the sun had gone down. We had just finished eating dinner and the boys wanted to play capture the hide and seek around the camp site. I told them they could, they played around until about 10:00PM until I told them to go to bed. Around 11:00PM when the boys had gone to sleep, I heard some movement around the camp area and so I got up to see what was going on. Near the camp I was instructed to come into the trees. As I walked into the area of the voice I came upon tow Border Patrol Agents. They told me that all of their motion sensors in the area had been set off. They also told me that they were tracking a couple of really big individuals and that we need to pack up our camp and move on. So that is what we did. These men seemed to me very nervous and they were packing heavy.

I still do not understand what the circumstances were. I never thought of a Sasquatch in this area. I did listen to a show that described what the some of the Border Patrol Agent had described. I do not know if there was a Sasquatch in the area but I feel like those men that night may have saved me a bunch of problems.

November 1998
Ellsworth Canyon, near Gabbs Nevada
I went cutting wood with my daughter Jessica, son Michael and friend Shawn. Shawn was trying to earn money to take my oldest daughter to Prom.

We were cutting fire wood to sell. About 12:00 PM my daughter Jessica came to where I was cutting wood and asked me what I wanted. I told her that I did not call her, she told me that I had called her twice. I assured her that I had not. She took an arm load of wood back to the truck. A few minutes later Shawn came up the hill and told me that he had heard some coyotes howling down the hill from where we were. He said they had just started up.

I told him to keep an eye out and let me know if they sounded closer. He grabbed some wood and went back to the truck. A few minutes after about 1:00 PM, Jessica and Shawn came back after hauling wood down for Michael to stack it in the truck. They wanted me to come down and eat some lunch and to see if we had enough wood. So I went back down and ate lunch. After a few minutes I went back to cutting would and all three kids came up to where I was. Jessica asked me if why I was giggling and what was so funny. I just kind of looking at them. Jessica told me she and Shawn heard some little kids giggling and asked if I heard them. I said no. Then my son came up the hill with a puzzled look on his face.

He told me he went down the hill to go to the restroom, when he came back to the truck he said all of the wood was thrown out of the truck. He wanted to know if I wanted him to restack it. I told him to go down with Jessica and Shawn and restack the wood. Within a few minutes Jessica was back telling me that all of the food was gone out of the ice chest. She also said they heard that giggling again I ask them if the wood was restacked and she said the truck was full. Michael my son yelled up the hill and said everything was packed up so Jessica and I went down the hill to the truck.

Michael and Shawn were standing on the driver side of the truck and Jessica was in the cab. Shawn walked to the back where I was standing and told me that there were two guys further down the hill watching us. We all got in the truck and started driving down the hill. Shawn kept looking out of the driver’s window and he told me that those guys were following us. When we got back to the road Michael and Shawn both said they saw the tall guys run back up the hill. The kids were quiet all the way home about 1 hour. In the last few months I have talked with all three kids by themselves, they all told me the same story and they told me they saw and heard a couple or more Sasquatch in and around the where we were cutting wood. Jessica told me that she sometimes has dreams about that day. Shawn has moved to Alaska and he will only talk about it with Jessica and Michael. Michael told me that he remembers the pair of Sasquatch watching us and that he thought they threw the fire wood out of the back of the truck.

October 2001
Ellsworth Canyon, near Gabbs Nevada
9:00 AM
My son Michael and I were cutting wood. I was setting on the tail gate of our truck watching my son cut up a tree. I noticed some movement behind him, a small group of Cow Elk came up and stood within a few feet behind him. They were acting really nervous, I thought it was really strange that the Elk were so close. I got Michaels attention and he was nearly face to face with the Elk. We heard what sounded like a large bear roaring coming from the scrub oak. The elk took off and ran pass my truck. Michael came up to the truck and said did you hear that. I told him I heard that roaring sound. So we did like the elk and took off. We talked about what happened all the way home. He asked me if I told mom and I told him that I would but, his mom is a skeptic.

I believe that whatever Sasquatch is, I know that they exist. I have spent many years believing.”






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47 Responses to “SC EP:446 Military veteran shares his encounters”

  1. Denise F

    Thanks so much Wes and our guest!
    Thank you also for bringing on Dustin, I’m particular about my podcasts but I have enjoyed Crypto PTSD also.

    Congrats on Revolver btw?

  2. Lewis S

    I don’t know the particulars of this man’s tale but my own life of dealing with them is harder to believe. Locals know about them we just keep quiet. I couldn’t do that I warn folks going into places to be careful. Never say bigfoot or they laugh and forget to be wary.

  3. Lewis S

    There are odd animals and really nasty critters in the Mono lake area, even heard stories from pinecrest as a kid.

  4. Doug K

    Great show tonight, Wes! Big shout out to both guests tonight!!! Great encounters Jeff!! Hey Dustin. I really love your Crypto PTSD program. ! YEEEE HAWWWW!!!!!

  5. Derek H

    Wes, Raphael loved the shout-out! I got to play it to him before he went to bed. You are a true gentleman! Thank you

  6. m99

    Gee Wes. What a real and great show tonight. We really enjoyed it. And Wes, there’s no one like you. We truly love this show and you. Thanks for all you’re doing Wes, from the work to welcoming the other researchers. Awesome.

  7. Jerry B

    First thing is thank you for your service, I myself did 23 years in the military, I like you have been a believer for quite sometime , I’ve had experiences too but never a sighting

  8. Sid N

    I would like to know if anyone has seen Sasquatch not only doing the spider crawl, but do it backwards? I have two nephews that say they’ve seen one move backwards upward from a creek bank like a spider. There were a small group of them on the hillside but one on its haunches low to the ground, but when they shined a flashlight on it, it did a backwards crawl, like a spider, up the hill where the others were standing. This happened several years ago and I’ve spoken about it before. Thank you. It was a great show!

  9. Jason T

    Just got off the water. Boat buttoned up fish cleaned time to relax with Sasquatch stories. I did see a big ol donner pass bear. Biggest bear I’ve ever seen. He did not run he just waited for us to drive by at around 25 feet. I think he’s a garbage eater and used to people or at least vehicles. It was only a few miles out of town and down the road from a campground. Anyway stoked for the show awesome shout out happy birthday youngster. That was cool.


  10. Kathy J T

    Great show Wes, Thank You for all your hard work & for not quitting!
    ……and Thanks Dustin – I will have to check it out!

  11. Karen C

    This is one of the better ones Wes, so informative, fun, and scary at the same time. Thanks to both guest for making my night so fun, please come back if anymore encounters….

  12. james b

    Im always suspect of anyone claiming to be a Navy Seal. Is there anyone out there that can do a little detective work? His encounter would hold a lot more weight if he really is a Seal.

  13. Fran S

    Thank you.? Wes. Great show! The closing music or song that plays, what band or group is that? Love it! Thanks again.

  14. Janetta V

    Thank you Wes and the guests for another great show. You’re an icon Wes, may the Lord bless you for all your kindness and help you have put out there to others, you will never know. Janetta

  15. Jeffrey H

    Wes great show. Good to hear from a SEAL. My dad was just like Gov. Jessie Ventura, except my dad was an officer. Jessie states that he’s a SEAL but in reality he’s a UDT((Underwater Demolition Team). Your guest Jeff can back this up unless things have changed between their time in the US Navy. The Seals and UDT trained side by side and that’s why no one ever calls out Jessie Ventura when he states that he’s a SEAL. It’s not uncommon for UDT to go by SEAL The National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum is located in Fort Pierce, FL, just south of Vero Beach, FL. Very neat place to visit! BTW, Dustin’s a good guy and he works hard to bring you a good show. Good to hear him on SC. Jeff, thanks for sharing all your encounters. They were truly enjoyable to listen too. Wes, Dustin, thanks also!

  16. Dovie D

    I’m curious if the first guest ever smelled anything prior to any of smell. I have smelt either a decaying smell and sewage sulfur smell. I can’t imagine them not smelling but I have heard a few guests state they couldn’t smell anything. Weird they could turn it off and on.

  17. Dovie D

    ?‍♀️ My post was meant to state did the first guest ever smell anything prior to any of his encounters. ?? ?‍♀️

  18. Cynthia S

    Another great show!! Thanks Jeff for sharing your encounters, wow! Also, thank you for your service.
    Dustin, I will be checking out your podcast, sounds cool!
    As always, thanks Wes! Great bedtime stories!

  19. John P

    wes if you read this message I just want you to know you had me cracking up LMAO about the geico commercial I really did get a kick out of that. thank you for the good laugh I had a rough day at work, an it made my day .an hey ya never know it just mite be a new commercial coming out soon I wouldn’t doubt it

  20. Derek R

    Im not trying to be funny or anything…but has any reseacher ever baited a gifting location with edibles?? T.H.C edibles? The reason im saying this is maybe the Squatch would get clumsy and possibly the researchers could get a good picture….and i know the possible risks…the creature could get really hostile also…there are alot of variables….im just wondering if its ever been done???

  21. Victor W

    My cousin is a supervisor for the BP- and knows and worked a lot with Rocky- he did vouch for the illegal aliens saying that they saw the ghost of a agent that fell off the cliff. He laughed at the Bigfoot sighting however – he spent over 20 years in Otay — I’ll work on him more and see what I can get. Looking forward to listening to the show tonight

  22. Gary J

    Interesting Wes,
    Like your first quest I am a twin and in the military for 25 yrs. Both
    myself and my twin brother have had Bigfoot accounts in the Strawberry / Lovers Leap trail in the Sierras in California. Wonder how
    many twins both have these encounters. There we go sounds of kids.
    Heard that in the same area
    Good Job guys!

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