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I see what you’re saying CJ. I know Carter is a prolific investigator. I have never dealt with any paranormal reports so I can’t really give any personal insight. I do know if there are people involved it is always prone to inaccuracies, bias and agendas. Heck just turn on the news
Idaho for example has several hundred sighting reports that have never been published on the BFRO site. There are several reasons for this and none of them are conspiratorial to my knowledge.
Number one is no investigator ever followed up. All reports are supposed to be vetted by an investigator. Typically, someone who is levelheaded, attends BFRO expeditions and has a good reputation. Some states have many, others like Idaho not so much. Once it has been followed up on and is determined to be a good submission. It is edited by the investigator if needed and submitted for publication.
Many are years old and only have emails for contact information. Alot of folks don’t want to be contacted again, they filed their report and are done with it as for as they’re concerned so it can be hard to chase them down.
Some really good reports are submitted only for internal information. Prominent people in the community who want to report what they witnessed, but don’t want it published.
I have also seen reports followed up on by an investigator that were not submitted for publishing for one reason or another. I would have worked a little harder to clarify some of the details the investigator seemed to have a problem with. I don’t like to second guess other people’s work, but some of these you can let the reader decide.
Moneymaker gave me one lead to follow up on. A federal employee had a very interesting Class B encounter with his wife. Upon speaking to him, he shared a detail I have never heard before. I asked him to submit a report, he claimed he did, but it never showed up. I contacted him several times asking him to resubmit the report, but I have never seen it show up. Super frustrating!!!
I’m not going to vouch for Moneymaker, but I have spent several hours on the phone with him. He got me dialed into how the reports work and I can tell you there is nothing nefarious he shared with me. We also spoke multiple times about drones. He is/was super interested in using them in the field. I was a drone pilot for my agency at the time. My takeaway from Moneymaker is that he is a super intense guy who loves Bigfoot. However, I will stress again this is my interaction with him only.
I am unaware of any government collaboration and I “work” as a volunteer. So, I’m completely in the dark about the BFRO finances.
That is my limited insight as a lonely Idaho BFRO Investigator
I might be able to be able to help you out a little bit Wolf and I would encourage anyone else to chime in.
In the 60’s police started running into situations that the average officer was not trained or equipped to handle. So LAPD started the first SWAT team (Special Weapons and Tactics) to handle these special situations. Think armed barricaded suspects and hostage situations to name a few. Now many, many agencies have their own SWAT teams or regional teams.
So patrol was then taught when you roll up on something big, secure a perimeter and wait for the SWAT team to come and handle it. That changed April 20th 1999 at Columbine. Patrol sat on a perimeter while two shooters were massacring fellow students all the while waiting for the vaunted local SWAT team to show up and take care of business. It was pretty much standard protocol around the country.
This school shooting was a big shake up for law enforcement because before this school shootings weren’t really a thing. So active shooter training became a very big deal. In general it is when the first few units roll up, they make a small tactical team and make entry. Personally most everyone I know wouldn’t have waited for anybody if they could hear gunshots. So basically what the current training is if you hear gunfire your running at it to put the shooter down. You ignore the wounded and the panicked kids or teachers until you reach the shooter. If you don’t hear gunshots, you move slower and ask any wounded or hiding kids “Where’s the shooter” and keep going until you find him and make him no longer a threat.
I went to my last active shooter training within the last two years. It was a couple of days long, involved roll players, SIM guns and involved many, many scenarios. This was a national training program. My department would also do active shooter training in our in-service training. I cannot imagine any decent sized agency in the US not having at least some sort of active shooter training.
I have a huge problem with LE response to that shooting. I understand they had a new Chief who was a former dispatcher and reported to be very left leaning. I don’t know if this is who was in charge eventually, but there had to be some sergeants there first. Why were they just waiting around? If you hear shots you go. I don’t care if you get direct orders to stand down. Your armed, kids are dying so go get that guy! Go ahead, write me up, suspend me or fire me for trying to save kids. I want sleep the rest of my life knowing I did everything that I could to save some kids. I would be pissed if the shooter got me instead, but that is a honorable death.
One last thing, I don’t like criticizing LE incidents because there is always more to the story and often many moving parts. However some of the basic facts of this incident baffle me. How was the shooter outside the school for 12 minutes before entering without being contacted? Why was there not a gunfight that kept this guy from entering? If he fled into the school why were they not hot on his ass? It is hard to murder little kids when you are in a gunfight.
I probably left some things out, but it might answer a question or two.
Well I guess we all failed TY M. I believe he called us stupid and liars, but in slightly less abrasive manner. He also doesn’t believe in Bigfoot now because not everyone follows his belief system whatever that is.
Since we cannot “verify simple facts” maybe TY M can enlighten us to what truth is and help this forum “Build Back Better”…
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Hey Alex J.,
Gumshoe is correct there is many reports in Idaho. I was always disappointed in the amount of BFRO reports in North Idaho and Idaho in general until I heard Matt Moneymaker comment on a podcast that Idaho has a huge backlog of reports. See the BFRO won’t publish them until they have been vetted by an investigator and Idaho hadn’t had a dedicated investigator for years.
Long story short, I became a BFRO investigator for Idaho and dang there is a ton of reports. There are over 300 raw reports in the file dating back to 2001. Now don’t get me wrong they are not all legit reports. However, it is frustrating to see a report for example where a lady had a Bigfoot look through her window while she is watching tv with her daughter, file the report that night and no one contacted her. Now it is now 7 years later, and you can’t get a reply on the old email address she left.
Ron B. is also correct, Bonner and Boundary County (Priest Lake area) is North Idaho’s hot spot. Last year the Travel Channel did a Bigfoot show just on the Priest Lake area. I have a friend who is a retired detective that saw a whitish/gray one north of Priest Lake while he was scouting years ago. It was in the middle of a clearcut about 250 yards away and doing its best stump imitation. My friend couldn’t figure out what he was looking at until it stood up and took off into the timber on 2 legs. I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t the same one reported across the border in Pend Oreille County Washington at Sullivan Lake, see BFRO reports #6303 and #11186.
There have also been vocals heard by residents near the Spokane river in Washington despite it being so close to a populated area. In Spokane County there have been some sightings and a great snow trackway found at the Antoine Peak Conservation area in the Spokane Valley, see photos at BFRO report #556332. Last year a school bus driver had a roadside sighting with a bus load of kids north of Spokane.
Greg D. pointed out the new 411 Idaho book, but I have not read that yet. I know Paulides never mentions Bigfoot, just the missing people, but they are still incredibly haunting books.
I know the much-maligned BFRO is not the only data base, but it is the only one I am associated with. I really need to get busy and get some more reports investigated.
If there is anything I could do for you Alex you can reach me at darrelloyler@gmail.com or idahobigfoot@outlook.com
I got to meet Bob a few times briefly. Although I could only get a first impression from these short encounters, I can tell you he comes across as a very genuine, sweet and sincere man. This description seems consistent from almost anyone who describes meeting the man. I will be shocked if he has any “deathbed confession”. However, it would be fricken awesome if he has had Patty’s head in his freezer for over 50 years!
Wow what a forum! Almost 2 full years of posts and 142 pages!
It is encouraging to see our members question the onslaught of lies being force fed to us the last couple of years. It is also almost hard to post because I want to rant about so many of the crimes being committed on most of the planet. As a retired detective I have to look at motive, but there is so many Money, Power, Eugenics, Control and attacking Trump. How is there worldwide buy in on the Jab? So many questions and answers are trickling in, but we will probably not get the full story for some time if ever. Here are some of my thoughts on the Plandemic.
Covid – It was engineered in a lab in China with the help of US tax dollars. Why were we helping Communist China develop Bioweapons? It was obviously a cover up to say it came from a wet market and not the Corona Virus Lab. Fauci orchestrated this cover up and it has been proven through his emails and bribes (grants). To anyone who still has doubts about the origin of the original Covid virus let me ask you this. If there was a Killer Robot rampaging through your town, do you think it came from an explosion at the junkyard or from the Killer Robot factory across the street? My only question was if it was released on purpose to destroy Trumps economy and give them an excuse for mail in voting, voting drop off boxes and ballot harvesting. Seems to have been very convenient for a certain political party.
Vaccine – If you literally have to change the definition to make your product fit the definition then it is not really a vaccine. The original intent was for it to help the elderly and the high-risk people. It was never a true vaccine for the general population. Fauci made it the only treatment along with toxic Remdesivir and ventilators. The true sincere doctors who stepped up to the plate and spoke truth about Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and other early treatments were squashed like bugs and outed as heretics to science. There was no money in a cheap effective treatment. Triple jabbed, boosted, hospitalization and Remdesivir is CHA CHING!!! No matter if you live or die, follow the highly profitable protocol.
Masks – Do I really need to say anything??? It is more like an emotional support accessory.
Variants – I am just a dumb redneck retired detective in Podunk Idaho with zero medical training beyond some basic first aid (leave the knife in, don’t pull it out!). I didn’t even play doctor with that cute neighbor of mine when I was a kid. However, I do wonder if there is some lab out there trying to cook up the next variant. Once you get lied too over and over you question everything and assume the worst.
Inflation – Since January 2020, the US has printed nearly 80% of all US dollars in existence. Again, I am not an economist or whatever, but even a dumb guy like me knows that this is going to bite us in the ass hard!
Surprise Deaths – People are dropping like flies surprise! Just look at the news every day and see who the next surprise death is and that is just the famous people, not the everyday joes like me. The jab goes into the heart of men and the reproductive organs of females. I won’t get into this, just look at Knobby’s military DMED system article above. This in only the first year, healthy people are getting all messed up! What will this look like in 5 years? 10 years? I feel so sorry for the healthy people forced to make the decision between providing for their families and getting to be a science experiment.
Okay if anyone actually read all of this, thank you for allowing me to rant a bit. I think one of the most disturbing realizations in the last 2 years is how many truly evil people there are in our country. I know there was always corrupt bad guys in government, but this helped expose how many evil doers, evil deniers, evil apologists there are out there. Many want to see you dead, many just don’t care, all of them want money and power.
God Bless ya all!
Jack Osborne did a show about bigfoot in North Idaho by Priest Lake last summer and it was supposed to air this last fall. Anybody see it? Jack was with some guy; I think his name was Jay and Dr. Mireya Mayor was part of it (she is super nice by the way). I was involved in a little town hall type scene at a bar. I was busy moving this fall and if it aired, I missed it.
Dang moving sucks! I have not been able to check in regularly so I am behind the curve. No app testing for me, but since I am here anyway I just moved to Lewiston Idaho so if there is any Idaho squatchers, investigators or enthusiasts like me please contact me. I am an investigator for the BFRO and a long time Sasquatch Chronicle member (not trying to snake any reports from Wes).
My name is Darrell Oyler and I am a recently retired Detective Sergeant from Kootenai County Sheriff’s Office. Now that I am retired I don’t have to worry about who knows what I did for a living. You can contact me at Hunter4005@yahoo.com
Can’t wait to use the app Germer!
Your exactly right Knobby! The DNC is rallying against Bernie because he is unelectable. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary swoops in at the 11th hour as well.
Yes, but I thought it was sensationalized. Like the Lidar results showing the old logging roads and they acted like they were hidden Sasquatch superhighways. I will still watch it though because I like Russell and Sasquatch.
