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  • #223339
    Debbie S
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    So sorry to hear this Wolf. Like Knobby….I just keep hearing of so many deaths. Some I know had the jabs and some it is a big question. And it seems to me with a lot of these deaths they go out of their way to blame something else. We’ll never know for sure I guess. But it does seem as if I am constantly see obituaries….and many are for 50 and under. I don’t remember in my lifetime seeing so many. ☹️😥

    #223267
    Debbie S
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    I haven’t posted in this thread for awhile and there are reasons. I hope as said above that this thread caused someone and hopefully more than one to rethink everything MSM was putting out there. It has been extremely hard to watch the sudden deaths around me and to see people who appeared healthy suddenly have one health problem after the other. A 35 year old mother of 3 suffered a brain aneurysm last week and died. Such a heartbreaking story. My own mother who was declared legally blind last summer when her macular degeneration which was stable and unchanging suddenly went into overdrive…she can see almost nothing now. She is also battling cancer which was only diagnosed about 3 weeks ago. And yes, true to what many have shared on here……it was non-existent and then boom! There it was and a really aggressive type.

    I wish, I truly wish that those of us who tried to sound the alarm had been totally wrong. 😭 There is no vindication in being right. None. For a lot around me we are at the 2 year mark and it is amping up. A very sweet lady that we do food drops too from the food bank is suddenly very, very sick. When I saw her Monday she looked like walking death…last week she was vibrant and laughing. In my discussion with her on how she was feeling and what was wrong, she said she just didn’t know but she felt horrible and had zero energy. Not Covid, not the flu……just can’t be figured out. She is going to the doctor, I don’t think they can figure it out either. At the end of our conversation I finally asked(but I had already pretty much figured out what I was witnessing)about the shots………she said yes, she had them all PLUS her flu shot……

    Lord, please make it stop. 😭

    #223266
    Debbie S
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    @Denise interesting thoughts. I would be greatly interested in following along as you work this out. 😎

    #223265
    Debbie S
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    That is fascinating about shaking snow off trees and covering tracks. Personally I never gave much credence to disappearing tracks because I always figured there was something to explain it that we just didn’t know yet.

    My very first encounter at age four. My mom and I saw the figure at the kitchen window, she screamed and dropped a glass baby bottle that shattered on the floor. I then looked up and saw it too. The next day my dad and a neighbor tracked it up onto the mountain behind our house. The tracks were bigger than my dad’s size 14 boot and further apart than his 6’4” frame could jump. About a foot of snow on the ground. When they got all the way to the top of the mountain, the tracks disappeared in some old growth timber. Huge trees. My dad and I discussed this a few years before he passed. He and I figured that as big as the trees were……it simply went up a tree and continued in the canopy. Sooooo………this is another way tracks can disappear. Just for the record. 😊

    #222935
    Debbie S
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    Well Pam, I loved your story from the first time you shared….I have loved all your contributions to this forum and site. I have come close to the same conclusions and no, I don’t want to be chasing demons….I definitely hear ya’ on that. 😊

    I began this journey in 2012 though some things had happened in previous years that I realized was actually them. I guess I am one of those supposedly “marked” people. I still can’t decide if that is a good or bad thing. I started out believing they were an unknown primate and it evolved rather quickly to unknown peoples. Then the infamous fall night in 2016 that everything took a decidedly scary and strange path. That night had “evil” written all over it. In fact you mentioned Mark’s story and I believed him totally because it was VERY similar to what happened to me. Very similar. ☹️

    I was convinced I had dealt with demonic entities the next day…furious beyond words I laid down a boundary of prayer all around my property and rebuked them in Jesus’ name. And did a bunch of soul searching. Did I want to continue to entertain demons? No I did not and I forbid any iteration of their names BF, etc. from being uttered in my house…for quite awhile. But I was still listening to encounters and pondering things. And some curious but interesting things, “interactions” happened away from my property. Things had been quiet and peaceful on our property for quite awhile. This left me scratching my head again. Demons are relentless unless stopped by prayer and Jesus’ Name so what were these interactions? They seemed innocent and mostly serendipitous, no evil intent at all. And were not happening on my property. Am I dealing with two different things?

    I am still not 100% convinced that they aren’t two different things but the conclusion I finally made a sort of peace with is that they are an unknown people of some sort and they can easily be influenced OR possessed by evil entities to do their bidding. What people or where they came from I have no idea. But I think they have been around for a VERY long time. I do lean toward a biblical connection of some sort though I don’t believe they are nephilim. I also lean toward they have a part to play in End Times that remains to be seen. I neither seek or run from interactions…they just happen. I trust my discernment(gut) to know when it is time to leave, pray, whatever. So yeah, I have become somewhat disinterested. But I don’t think they are totally demonic……just my thoughts………hope it made some sense. 😊

    #220509
    Debbie S
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    “ Of course, “Russia is the aggressor”… typical brainwashed propagandised response. Have you no idea of the eight years of Ukrainian shells rained down on Donbass civilians? … the kidnappings, tortures and killings of Eastern Ukrainians by ‘their own government’… because they dared to speak Russian? … the constant vitriolic threats against Russia from Ukraine… threatening to ‘destroy Russia’?”

    Exactly Wolf………but MSM does NOT report this….ever. You have to go to alternative sources and *gasp* European sources to have a clue of this. Heartbreaking ……and the people of Donbass and Russian speakers have been suffering for a long time. 😭

    Ukraine is a cesspool of crime and has been for years.


    @CJ
    M exactly. That shouldn’t be hard to figure out.

    ‘ You can tell our news media branch has been “captured” when reporters stand in front of burning businesses and state that the protests were mostly peaceful.“

    #220442
    Debbie S
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    @knobby that will never happen. It takes a lot of character and personal integrity to admit you’re wrong. Plus to admit you were wrong about this means you are facing an uncertain future. I see a whole lot of people around me just hiding from this and in a big state of denial. The elephant in the room. I know they took the jab because they proudly told me they did. Most of the people I had contact with personally never got obnoxious about their decision like I witnessed in online interactions. Some of the stuff I watched online and that happened to others was just heart stopping in its viciousness. Some would say animalistic but I have seen animals behave better.

    As I have told some family: vindication is not a happy place. 😭 It is no fun watching the fallout and destruction. I constantly ask myself if I said enough, did I warn enough but that is silly. And preposterous. My kids and I were pretty relentless and hubby was very, very vocal at work. We were laughed at and ridiculed. We were never called names other than “conspiracy theorist” but ridiculed HARD for not “trusting the science”.

    2021 and 2022 were years of frustration trying to get people to just stop and CONSIDER what we were saying. They refused. 2023 is going to be heartbreaking, watching the result of that.

    I know this: March 2020 the world changed forever. 😭

    #220394
    Debbie S
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    @Wolf

    “ 👀 Jeffrey A. Tucker Says the Gates Foundation Wanted Lockdowns Until Vaccines Were Ready”

    That was the plan whether people want to admit it or not. And Trump thwarted that plan whether people want to admit it or not.

    I am constantly amazed even now when someone tells me they spent 2020 shut up from people and didn’t go anywhere. 🙄 For me and my adult kids and my granddaughter it was one of the best summers we have ever had. By June of that year we decided there was no danger in being outside even if there were other people around(sadly there were only a few) and we had TONS of outings and loads of fun. We had a BIG 4th of July celebration outside. We quit putting any credence in the narrative by June but it just boggles my mind at the number of people who were AFRAID to go OUTSIDE that summer. A bit of critical thinking and they could have had fun that summer too………

    #220393
    Debbie S
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    @Knobby yeah, it is starting to show up all over the place. My FB feed nearly every morning has several “died suddenlies”……heartbreaking. The one that startled me yesterday morning was a very popular and known young woman in a group I am in. She went to sleep Sunday night and didn’t wake up. 😭 STUNNED everyone in the group. Several were quick to say she had been battling some illness for awhile but nearly all admitted that simply going to sleep and not waking up was mind boggling. No idea if she was jabbed but really suspect she was.

    The conversation has changed dramatically here where I am. It used to be whispered……now the conversation is out in the open and people actively discussing it. You can feel the nervous tension.

    After church on Sunday, there was an active discussion going on about it in the vestibule as people were leaving. It caused a small group of people to stop where they were and discuss it. I didn’t see it my hubby did. The majority of our members did NOT get jabbed but about 5-6 did. He said one of the men(and this guy to some extent, not viciously, made fun of us who refused the jab) was standing in the group discussing it. I asked what was his reaction. Hubby said that the guy said not a word but was standing on the edge of the group listening. One has to wonder what was going on his mind.

    Two Sundays ago, it was a topic of conversation at the restaurant after church……and not quietly. I’m sure nearby tables could hear the conversation. I have heard people standing in the aisles in the grocery store discussing it. This has come about since Christmas.

    But I have to say I hear a lot of “they were struggling with sickness before”. So who knows? Did the jab cause it or did it exacerbate pre-existing conditions? All I know is people are talking………and some of these deaths are happening to people in their 20’, 30’s and 40’s. I have never seen so many deaths in younger people before. 😥

    #220366
    Debbie S
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    “ Don’t worry, we’ve considered walking across the border but if we were going to enter the states it would be to be free, not be there illegally and risk getting caught and extradited.”

    Yeah, I kinda said that tongue in cheek. Of course the most sane way would be to do it legally. It’s just insane that a jab would be imposed on you but not illegals crossing the border.

    I hear ya’ about not really wanting to leave your country. Of course you don’t. It took a lot of frustration to make us leave a state that we loved dearly. And a state is not a country. But we saw the writing on the wall as more and more tyrannical laws got passed and it was time to go. The rights of property owners was the final straw for us. We can do what we please with our property here and no law telling us we can’t. My only regret is that we didn’t move far enough off the beaten path………and we miss our community of family and friends. My heart goes out to you Wolf.

    #220350
    Debbie S
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    @Seamus

    “ Only a huge, grassroots groundswell will stop this kind of shite.”

    And only if people WAKE UP! Too many still asleep or believing that everything is temporary and will get better. 😔

    Next shortage/insanity is milk….prepare. Go look at the continuing rising prices on both powdered milk and evaporated milk in the grocery….consider all the cattle culled last year…some farmers have already sounded the alarm. Milk is next.

    #220347
    Debbie S
    Participant

    The absurd continues to get even more absurd. 😡😡😡😡

    Can you fly to Mexico and come over the border? I know, I know……in the frustration I felt for your frustration……I couldn’t resist.

    I thought Biden ended all the Covid crap today……………saw that in passing………not true?

    If he ended it……how can they still demand vaccine proof?

    That just plain stinks, Wolf.

    #220326
    Debbie S
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    #220325
    Debbie S
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    @Wolf late to this thread…just wanted to chime in. LOL

    “ My Cartoon Art Courses are a big hit in Oz schools and my wife and I are investigating basing or selves in south-east Texas (where it’s warmer), buying an RV and travelling the Bigfoot conference circuit promoting my books and teaching my course at schools to finance it (under an E2 investment visa).”

    These would be a big hit in America too, especially rural areas where funds for extracurricular aren’t always as available as bigger areas. As said maybe more so in some areas than others…who knows……most people and children love to try their hand at art, especially cartoon art. This kinda reminds me of the painting classes offered to adults(and kids too) as a fun activity for groups or couples(date night) to try their hand at painting. This is popular in some areas, especially ours being rural it is a fun activity that gets rave reviews from people as being well worth the money. And they get a painting they did in the process. I want to try it myself. I wasn’t sure if you were aware this was a popular activity here.

    People are hungry for knowledge and skills……I have witnessed recently that almost any class that teaches a skill is an almost instant hit for adults and kids.

    Costa Rica is no surprise to me……I have friends who have gone on about the beauties and advantages of Costa Rica for years. A few who ended up moving there. And others who visit on a regular basis. I’ve been kinda sideways observing El Salvador….interesting times huh? 😊

    I have no doubt in my mind that whatever you decide will be well thought out and you will accomplish it. Just please don’t wait too long….

    #220323
    Debbie S
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    @Wolf @Knobby

    This: “
    Historically those that manipulate the system (via blatant theft) to the point of destroying it always start wars to hide their theft. (Ala WW2 following the Great Depression, which occurred as a result of blatant thievery and transfer of wealth).”

    My dad and I had a running battle over FDR until the day my dad died. He grew up in the Great Depression and he and his contemporaries considered FDR as nothing short of a saint. 😭 Convincing them otherwise was almost impossible. The best I ever managed was to convince my dad that his “hero” had massive clay feet. I cannot remember everything I read but I had a pile of books here(and have likely loaned them out to disappear) because I am somewhat of a history buff and I did a deep dive on the depression.

    “ as a result of blatant thievery and transfer of wealth).” when you read some of the things that occurred RIGHT UNDER THE NOSES of the American people it is breathtaking and will make you shake your head in wonder. How did they fall for this you ask? Well……the same as they have always done. Create the disaster and panic and present the government as everyone’s savior. Easy. People were suffering so badly that they created a lot of feel good programs that in reality were helpful and alleviated suffering. IF you study anything in school about the depression THIS is what you learn. Not the things that FDR attempted and accomplished in some cases that were NOT beneficial for the people……outlawing the ownership of gold anyone? Packing the Supreme Court…failed, but he tried with all his might. Nationalizing electric utilities……failed but he TRIED. These off the top of my head……look at legislation passed during all of this and you will understand where a big foundation of our problems now actually began. FDR was EVIL to his core and a DS player yet to THIS DAY most Americans consider him one of the greatest presidents ever. It kinda reminds me of the lie that the polio vaccine was the medical communities greatest accomplishment. Tell a lie long enough and people believe it. Convincing them otherwise is a long uphill battle.

    When you understand past history(which is why they do everything in their power to destroy it) you begin to understand the present better and can see the patterns emerging. But so many people make NO effort to understand and just accept things at face value allowing themselves to be fooled over and over again.

    Ukraine has always been a cesspool of corruption. The DS took advantage of that long ago to make that a stronghold. My sympathy has ONLY ever been with the average Ukrainian citizen who has been forced to live with this corruption. They have been used, abused and annihilated to make sure evil could flourish. People need to wake up. They simply MUST start a war now and burn it all down……and blame Putin. Same story as always……

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