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November 4, 2024 at 7:59 am #240119
Scott V
ParticipantPrediction: Harris big win derails Trump plan to claim victory and reverse second loss since disastrous presidency that crippled U.S. economy. Trump repeats 2020 loss lie falling on deaf ears after crushing electoral defeat. Disinformation money fueling fake news and phony social media stories drys up. State and federal felony cases proceed against Trump opening up to public scrutiny all evidence of illegality.
November 12, 2020 at 6:06 pm #178489Scott V
ParticipantThere goes that utter certainty in ones perspective. If you’d like to demonstrate how Biden cheated, I’d be happy to detail why Trump was impeached in a legal proceeding. Then we would both have additional perspective to enlighten and inform our belief systems.
November 12, 2020 at 5:49 pm #178482Scott V
ParticipantWhen one candidate conceded election night 2016, it was very difficult to watch. The irregularities of that election were many in my eyes, and to top it off, I found myself in the majority but without a winning candidate. The instances of fake news across social media implicating my candidate in one scandal or another were prolific. The lies, the dark money, the foreign interference, the suppression of votes in key battle ground states made it clear to me that the fix was in. Still, I, among the many disappointed, was asked to set that aside and move ahead, and I watched as my leader led that charge. It was indeed a hard pill to swallow.
Soon after, the current president welcomed his successor to the Whitehouse and implored the country to come together and work for the success of the incoming president for the good of the country because, as that president said to the successor and to all who watched, “We now are going to want to do everything we can to help you succeed because if you succeed the country succeeds.”
Say what you want, but what is happening in the Whitehouse now stands in stark contrast to that cold reality of 4 years ago, and the reality of a transparent 2020 election process across 50 independent states led by predominantly Republican governors and legislatures. The accusation that this 2020 election was stolen lays bare a hypocrisy so absent of empathy that the defeated would sooner forsake the existence of a United States of America than entertain the notion that others don’t believe in them, don’t agree with their conclusions, and have made informed choices that ushered in their defeat.
What I have read in this forum is so much conspiracy and double talk, I could not even begin to address this waterfall of accusation. Though I would engage on any single issue or event you’d like to tackle.
Meanwhile, a defeated president demanding loyalty of party members threatens ruin should they not quickly and fully fall in line. The latest victim in Georgia, one among many Republican secretaries of state who now receives death threats for doing their job and defending their integrity. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes, “The kindest interpretation of Perdue and Loeffler’s demand for Raffensperger’s head is that they are victims of blackmail, hostages to the Twitter account of a president who, although defeated, still has the power to torpedo their campaigns in 140 characters or less.”
Is this the state of the Republican party, running scared from the Twitter rants of a defeated president who would tank the likelihood of his party holding onto the senate to appease a fragile ego?
None of this is normal. This abhorrent behavior demonstrates a singular concern for self-preservation punctuated by an utter absence of loyalty to country and constitution. This is the behavior of an autocrat. Democracies do not abide autocrats, and America has rejected this autocrat because he is an autocrat, and because he has not performed well as a president, (e.g. we’re living in the midst of a deadly pandemic without a federal response and the numbers of infected and dead grow every day).
To those feeling the pain of this loss, I wish you well and invite you to participate fully in supporting any and all legal challenges to Trump’s election loss. Send money to your candidate because these many legal challenges are not cheap, and mere accusation is only that, no matter who slings it or how much one might want to believe it. Exhaust the legal process, but be ready for the inevitable end in the absence of actual impropriety that would change a very decisive win.
And be clear on this, no one is asking you to join in on this victory. You don’t have to be quiet, be happy, or concede anything. Stay where you are, preach your particular understanding of things, make accusations, use profanity, if that is your prerogative. Too often, I have read posts in this forum that preach stark division and assert a position of moral and intellectual superiority while asserting a moral failing and dearth of intellect for hundreds of millions of people grouped together as one on the other side. How can that be? How can we be so damn sure? How can we be so unalike?
I don’t hate anyone here and my intent is not to insult or demean a single person, though I cannot say the same of some posts I’ve read. I get it. You are angry and feel cheated. But a perspective is only that, a perspective, and by definition incomplete and hardly able to dictate itself as the sole truth, indisputable, and with all certainty ready to pass the final judgement. We all could learn a lot from each other given the opportunity of actual discourse.
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