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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39710311who knows what a BF looks like up close and personal? nobody actually knows or has provided any clear evidence to the contrary of TS stuff
@Knobby – good analysis – I agree with what youre saying
Interesting posts. There are all sorts of phantoms & ghosts around the UK, often going back to ancient folklore like ‘Old Shuck’ but they are ‘merely’ paranormal. Unlike in N America and other parts of the world with real wilderness, there’s really no flesh and blood dogman/bigfoot/woodwose type creatures here in the UK, which is handy as you cant easily arm yourself here!
The only parts of Europe that have any true wilderness left are really only parts of Russia and maybe Scandanavia. Western Europe is fully tamed. It was not always like that of course and the tales of trolls, wildman, giants and woodwose are no doubt folk memories of a sadly long lost European world
My feeling is that Todd Standing has been wrongly vilified. The Govt doesnt need to do it when so much of ‘the community’ will do it for them.
I’m not certain of all his material for sure, but then I’m not certain of quite abit of material thats put out, but that doesnt mean the footage/reports are deliberate falsehoods. Standings images though leave no room for a genuine error or misidentification – they are either real or deliberately false – there is no grey area. If he is legit then I would expect he would eventually get results that are more convincing – if not – then we are still where are with the subject. I like what he says about his general outlook on sasquatch. Maybe I’m gullible but I’d rather give his research and results the benefit of the doubt at this stage. Maybe get him on SC and see what the guy has to say? Would be interestingthis is a link to a short piece about the local legends of Ebu Gogo on the island of Flores, Indonesia, by one of the researchers who found the bones of Homo Floresiensis – otherwise known as the hobbit. The behaviours attributed to them have many similarities to BF behavior. Maybe they’re close to each other in origin? – apart from the size.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/indonesia/1475280/Villagers-speak-of-the-small-hairy-Ebu-Gogo.htmlShannon D.
Thankyou – all ok here. I was on the moors yesterday as it happens – but the only criptid around here are big cats (cougar sized) but they’re not of any known danger, although weirdly enough, the local paper reported last week that a councellor had warned workers to take care when renovating a Holy Well in a wooded valley near town, as there are local recent sightings. But Sasquatch is the thing and is totally fascinating: if I were going to try to encounter one I would just make sure I was with a group of experienced researchers/hunters to avoid getting my head popped off before I saw it! Love SC and love all the different American accents and your turn of phrase – great stuff!!!
CheersI’m using Google Earth lol!! not that I’m a total chicken – but havent got a gun and am in England which is like a little home garden compared to North America!
I agree. I think Melba Ketchum has been wrongly vilified. I’m no genetic scientist but the fact that her studies have thrown up results contrary to the mainstream accepted wisdom of the sasquatch world, says to me she’s identified real evidence. It also fits with many native traditions. The fact we don’t know the origin of the male line is only a problem until we find that out. One thing is sure from recent fossil discoveries – our human family tree is way more complicated than was ever thought before with neanderthal and denisovan inbreeding.
Yes very good points re the motion detectors and how they understand and solve problems like this – I’ll listen to that episode again! I didnt know that there were traditional stories of fire use. After all, the native american cultures have been living with them for thousands of years. I agree they probably dont need fire so dont bother with it. One of the reasons humans use fire is to be able to get much more nutrition from certain foodstuffs, especially meat, that we would otherwise not get. Maybe this is why Sasquatch seem very often to go for the innards and organs rather than what we call the choice cuts? Maybe those parts are more digestable for their bodies, and being such accomplished hunters they are not under pressure to utilize every scrap of the animal they catch.
Also re oral traditions; there are many ways human societies have recorded information like using knots on coloured threads and woven patterns. I mean even humans have other ways to record traditions. It seems they have language – at least a basic one – but they might also complement that by the use of the stick structures and all the other things that get reported, where the practical use may be minimal but the cultural/information use is much greater. A bit like 3D writing? It’s just tough for us to decipher.
It seems, from what we know of the animal kingdom, the more intelligent a creature is, the more it has to learn, or be taught things, and the less it has of inherited, genetically provided, knowledge.
It’s great to be able to discus these ideas and thoughts – Cheers All!Hi Donald & Bobby. You raise interesting issues and possibilities. From the reports 4 types or races seem to be the favoured idea. They look different so its more than just behavioral difference and there seems to be a definite correlation between appearance and behavior. In the past different tribes (from all over the world) were known in some cases for being either friendly or warlike – or even cannibalistic so the differences in reported Sasquatch behavior, even within the same type or race suggests the presence of what we would call Culture.
What I don’t quite get is that they seem very smart on one level and yet have no use of fire at all.
Like you said, if they come across our technology, eg a car, for the 1st time, then it is going to be a big shock for them. I heard that when people come from some remote place even nowadays, where they’ve never seen a car moving toward them, they are in great danger of being run down as they have to learn to understand and comprehend its speed just by looking at it – it has to be learnt because its not a natural thing.
CheersHere’s a link to a recent study saying we are now discovering the great apes use of sounds in communication is far more complex than had been thought.
If Sasquatch is somewhere between us and them, the sounds/words/noises/calls they make could sound the same to us, but actually mean different things at different times, particularly for their hoops, screams, whistles, grunts and growls.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33731444.
I think Sasquatch is much closer to human than ape so my thinking so the idea of Sasquatch having language is really to be expected and it would be a surprise if they didn’t. Cheers
