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August 19, 2016 at 5:54 pm #88918
Mo M
ParticipantChristopher K. I have been honest with you from the get go. I was allowed by Bob to use the FLIR on the last expedition, it was actually donated to the BTW by a very generous participant, the donor told me in a very comical fashion that he donated it cause I was the DUMB ASS who always goes out by myself and he wanted me to be able to see any danger when out on the trails(LOL). I used it to scan the camp and then I gave it back to Bob, I swear to you this, that was the last time I touched it. When Bob asked me in the courtroom to pay his fine, I really wanted to say to him, if you have the FLIR, then sell it and pay your fine yourself…And yes, the Gods honest truth is, that Bob actually asked me to pay his fine and if he tells anyone otherwise then the pile/stack of untruths will be a little bigger.
I will say this though, Tim was very honest with me and explained to me that Bob has it. So that’s all I can tell you.Good luck with that..August 19, 2016 at 11:53 am #88867Mo M
ParticipantI really do support the comment on engaging with Steve, he is as narcissistic, self serving and self absorbed as they come. This guy reminds me of the Punks who drive cars with 23 inch shiny outlandish LOOK AT ME Wheels/Rims, turn their Base up to 12, look out the widow with the gangster look and want everyone to look in their direction cause they want to be noticed.
He is nothing but a “forum surfer” who needs the attention that he is probably lacking from people closest to him because of his self absorbing personality. All he has is “conjecture” and second hand lies that he throws out in his 12 paragraph rants. Yet he even says that it’s conjecture but tries his very best to SPIN that admitted conjecture into some twisted logic…
This is why nobody at the expedition wanted to get back to you when it was shut down, you need your wake up call man….you are simply a pain in the ass and people can’t stand you.August 18, 2016 at 6:29 pm #88774Mo M
ParticipantGood luck to you to Waylon
August 18, 2016 at 5:08 pm #88760Mo M
ParticipantThe right thing to do is be truthful in every aspect of this debacle and that’s what I did, I have helped others that reported there unhappiness before even going to the Head of the BTW or any Secretary(Daughter) in charge of funds.Their are people that the BTW never even talked to that I helped out and made good on the promise of an expedition in which they had no need to call any of you all(It’s been fixed).
I also never let it be known that a large amount of Cash was stolen from Bob’s safe from a person close to Bob. I really hope that Bob is not going to deny this or claim convenient amnesia. So please Waylon stop getting your lies from Bob and posting them in here, just wake up man, I was also hypnotized and blinded by the coolness factor that Bob can portray, I get that. I thought you of all people would see what was truly going on here, but its obvious to see that your are way to emotionally involved here to think straight.August 18, 2016 at 3:45 pm #88752Mo M
ParticipantI’ve not been in the shadows. I’ve been patiently listening to every things that’s being said both the good and bad. It’s important to me that I address every ones questions and concerns as best as I can. I want my response to be as informative and productive as possible and this is why I chose not to respond every time someone throws an accusation or insult my way.
Yes, I was paid for the first 3 expeditions by Bob who always had singular control of all the finances. I was paid along with other members (not volunteers) and reimbursed for some expenses. Contrary to what Bob told everyone on SC Big Thicket Saga interview and how he said he never intended to made any money off the expeditions and never did make any money is just not true. This is the reason he needed the permit in the first place because he planned on making money and charging for the expeditions from the get-go. It was never a secret that money was being made. I was personally very open to others that the money was being raised to help pay for new equipment. There were multiple times that Bob stated to the BTW team that if he could make some money off these expeditions, then “why the hell not”. It was a business from the beginning so the fact that I and others got paid proves he was dishonest on the show about not making any money. If it’s not true, then let’s see Bob’s bank statements for the BTW and his Paypal statements. It was a business from the beginning and this is why he needed the permit. At the last expedition he told all the participants to lie to park officials and say they did NOT pay because he KNEW he did not have the permit. On the SC interview Bob stated how sorry he was to all the participants at the last expedition for how things went down. In my opinion, Bob was sorry that he got caught. However, he’s not sorry enough to refund any ones money or even return their phone calls. I did state on the forum that if anyone didn’t get a refund to contact me and I would do what I could. That meant helping answer questions and getting them in touch with Bob who is ultimately the one responsible for all the refunds. I put myself out there on the forum and gave my contact number. I had nothing to hide. Where’s Bob? Why won’t he return peoples calls and return their money. I had been lead to believe by Bob that everyone had received a refund. After the 3rd expedition, Bob told me he could not pay me or reimburse me for my expenses. I asked why and was told that he didn’t have the money to pay me. From the start, Bob told me my role was to be the salesman and contact person for the expeditions. I did not personally accept any monies from anyone. The money orders were made out to Bob Garret and mailed to him. The Paypal account was in the name of Robert (Bob) Garrent. Towards the last expedition, Tim graciously showed me the one of bank statement via screen shot. I thanked him for his honesty. Bob later got wind that Tim had shown me a bank statement and I was told by Tim that Bob got extremely angry at him for doing this. Bob never want me or anyone else having access or knowledge finances. So just to clarify – I did NOT have access to any monies or accounts of Bob/BTW, NO-I did NOT steal any monies from Bob, NO-I did NOT purchase my plot of land with any money stolen from Bob, NO- I was never given the money from Bob or anyone on BTW to hand out refunds. So there’s your “logic”. All credit card payments went through Bob’s personal Paypay account and all money orders were in Bob’s name. Here’s some more “logic” for you- where’s Bob and why is he not speaking or returning participants calls?
People have been asking how I got the original recording of the supposed Sasquatch growling at the TUC that Bob always played at the expeditions for participants. I was so amazed at hearing the recording and I too believed that it was a real Sasquatch AND I believed Bob was the greatest guy in the world so I pulled him aside later and asked him if he could please share the file with me, he said he would send it to me, but not to ever share it with anyone else. He sent it to me and I had it from that point forward.
After the last expedition, we all decided it was best to lay low. I made several attempts to contact Bob but he was not returning my calls (I’m sure many of you participants can relate to this). I asked Tim and Waylon to have Bob contact me but never heard from him. It was during this time that I was contacted about the questionable audio records that Bob had played at the expeditions. This was simply a matter of timing and nothing more. I did not want to believe that the guy I loved and looked up to could be doing something fraudulent. I told myself that I needed to look at this with impartial eyes. However, it didn’t take a third grader to realize the records where the same. I was so hurt and felt so sick to my stomach so I once again tried to reach out to Bob via text and make contact. I needed to hear his side of the story. However, his reply was vulgar and full of threats. Wes was made aware of the questionable audio records that Bob had been playing to participants on the expeditions. After listening to them, Wes only response was that they seem “slightly” different. If you really believed these recording were not the same, wouldn’t you say that with out any reservations and shout it from the roof tops to defend Bob. Denial is a very powerful emotion.
The experience we had out in the BTW where real and BF is a real creature. I’m grateful for the people I got to meet and the experiences we shared together. They were genuine encounters and all real things to be proud of. I stand by my word that I will do my best to help in any way with those folks that are still trying to get their refund from Bob.
When it comes to a person’s true character, actions speak louder than words and right now Bob is MIA. The allegations that I stole money is simply a way for others to deflect this forum from the real truth/issue. The recordings that Bob played were a hoax along with the TUC and Bob used this fictional story to mislead me & others into believing he was something he’s was not. Bob’s not the victim here, it’s the people who believed him and trust him who are the victims. It’s the people who didn’t get their refunds that are the real victims. Bob still has a chance to do the right thing and just admit the truth. We’re all human and we all make mistakes. It’s still not to late for him to do the right thing and I feel confident that he’ll be forgiven.
Again— I can be reached by anyone at 443-794-7698 I will pick up my phone or if I am on the phone keep trying me
August 17, 2016 at 5:16 pm #88590Mo M
ParticipantBlack yeti I have an MP3 player and I run it through a cordless rechargeable 200 watt speaker.
August 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm #88564Mo M
ParticipantIt was funny I was playing these sounds on my call blaster and certain people had recorders out and they thought they captured real time Squatches and then they posted it here, I had to burst there bubble and tell them that you recorded my call blast… AT first these people faught me about it, then I shared the file I had and showed them thru a spectrograph that it was an exact match…They were bummed
August 17, 2016 at 2:47 pm #88562Mo M
ParticipantSome of those sounds are from Minnesota, The story is the guy was in his car and recorded these, I use these sounds to call blast and I have gotten responses….
August 16, 2016 at 4:48 am #88341Mo M
ParticipantI will say this again- I am not doing this because of hate for anyone nor do I have malice on my heart for anyone, yet it is being spun by So many now that I do- I loved Bob like a big brother and I still love him as a human being so this has nothing to do with internal squabbles and such as it is being portrayed- it is about the truth and that’s it. I went to the source and asked why this was done and the reply was a rebuke to me, sorry people but I cannot walk around with this and sleep at night. As the truth must be told
Heavy heart is what I have nowAugust 16, 2016 at 3:25 am #88334Mo M
Participanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ViN9Q8iao
This is exactly the same recording as Bobs that he played for people
August 14, 2016 at 5:55 pm #88149Mo M
ParticipantWedge between what Researchers???
August 14, 2016 at 5:48 pm #88144Mo M
ParticipantVery good point Dave. Get off the couch and put in some research of your own.
August 14, 2016 at 5:06 pm #88134Mo M
ParticipantGood point Brad, also makes them look like Baiters, or people who need to be the focal point on any and every occasion. This is what Baiters do to shift it all back to them Kinda sad, if you think about it..
August 14, 2016 at 4:34 pm #88126Mo M
ParticipantI agree
August 14, 2016 at 3:40 pm #88114Mo M
ParticipantI’ve had to make many tough decisions these past few months regarding my relationship with BTW, but in the end, the best decision for me in good conscience was to part ways. I’m fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet all of the amazing people on each of the expeditions and to learn from each one of you. It was an honor to do all the cooking for you and to take you out to those awesome spots to get really good evidence. I truly feel blessed and I hope we can stay in touch. You can contact me any time, I will always be there for you.
Regarding the refunds to participants, I was originally informed that everyone had received a full refund but I have learned that was simply not true. Because I was not kept in the loop as a co-founding partner of the BTW LLC, I was never granted access to the financial statements until the very end by one of the co founders. Otherwise, I would have done everything in my power to make sure refunds were immediately issued. I would first like to offer my heartfelt apology to all those who were negatively impacted in any way while on the final expedition and to those who did not receive a full refund as they were promised by the BTW. If you did not receive a refund or have any concerns, please email me or call me. I will personally speak with each person. Although I have no access to BTW funds, I feel morally obligated to make sure the right thing is done and I will do what I can within my power to try and remedy this.
Thank you for your understanding and support.
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