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@m99 I understand where you’re coming from, but these discussions need to happen among the sons of God. Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit not only to lead us into all truth, as far as doctrine goes, but also to tell us things to come. It doesn’t matter if this world of unbelievers see brothers sharpening one another, because this is the only way we’ll ever come to the unity of the faith. I have pieces of the puzzle, you have pieces of the puzzle, and Knobby has pieces of the puzzle. I’m not arguing with my brother. I’m just making some sparks! Lol! Iron sharpens iron! The church as a whole spends way too much time never saying anything to one another, when we’re supposed to be building each other up and sharing our spiritual gifts for the edification of the body, so please don’t think that I’m trying to build animosity between brethren.
As far as the bride of Christ and the church go,I believe they’re the same. I believe everyone who believes in Jesus is the true Israel of God, because Jesus tore down the wall of separation, but I also believe that all of Israel (the ones who don’t yet believe in Jesus) shall be saved as it is written in Romans, and they’re no different than everyone of us who are born of God.
And as for sasquatch, they absolutely have to be descendants of the giants. I’ve screenshot so many videos of their faces from Swan Lake Bigfoot, it’s ridiculous….. That guy has more than 40 of them on video, and he actually zooms in on their faces. They’re DEFINITELY not animals! I wish I could post all of the stills on here for people to see for themselves….. I don’t know if the army of the North is all Nephilim, but it sure seems like it would make a whole lot of sense for something like that to happen.
Either way, I’m not here to argue with fellow believers, but I am absolutely all for sharing what I’ve learned. I’ve had to experience being corrected by the Holy Spirit many times over the last 20+ years (I’m 44), and I realize that I’m not the only member in the body of Christ. We absolutely need each other to become the one new man, and if sasquatch is that catalyst to get us to come out of our caves to get to know one another, then praise God. I appreciate your communication, and please know that I’m not being hateful with Knobby. I realize that people can become very zealous when it comes to scripture, and I’m not about to argue anyone into accepting my understanding as the only truth, but at the same time, that doesn’t mean I’m going to shy away from a good Bible conversation. I honestly wish I had more brothers like Knobby to dig into the Word with. Real bible studies are AMAZING!
I really find it extremely interesting that so many sons of God are being drawn into community by the knowledge of these creatures’ existence….. The seed of the woman vs the seed of the serpent….. It can’t be some coincidence that so many Christians are running into these things, and I’m starting to believe the orbs are ministering spirits or angels. Remember how the wise men said they followed Jesus’ star, and that it stopped above the manger?…. We’ll see what comes of these creatures. All I know for sure is that they’re not our friends, and they’re definitely not supposed to be here! I honestly don’t think they’re allowed to touch us, but I’m truly starting to believe they’re the “beast of the Earth” from the fourth seal that will play a part in killing a fourth of mankind. If that scripture was referring to lions and tigers and bears, we’d just shoot em…..We are not appointed to wrath, and that’s EXACTLY what the tribulation period is. Jesus isn’t coming back to punish the bride of Christ before the rapture. I don’t know where you learned that the seals and trumpets overlap, but that is absolutely not true. The seventh seal is when the angels with the trumpets begin to sound. The trump of God mentioned at the rapture is NOT one of the seven trumpets of wrath. It is the gathering trumpet like in the days of old when Israel would be called into assembly. Matthew 24 IS NOT talking about the great tribulation. All of the up until the sun being blackened and the moon turned to blood have already happened to the early church and Israel, and continued on down until the church of today.
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to THIS TIME, (Jesus is warning them that Rome is coming to destroy Jerusalem) no, nor ever shall be.24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved:(He’s referring to HIS people, not every person on Earth) but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.(This has been happening for the last 2,000 years to the church)24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, BUT THE END IS NOT YET.24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.24:8 ALL THESE ARE THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS. (Many believe these things are tied directly to the opening of the seals) 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you:(this was the persecution of the early church) and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.(Already happened)24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.(Already happened)24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.(Still happening)
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) (the historian Josephus wrote about this. He witnessed the event)24:16 Then let them WHICH BE IN JUDAEA FLEE (the destruction of Jerusalem) into the mountains:24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! (This is repeated in Luke 21)
Cross reference with….(already happened)
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies (abomination of desolation….Roman soldiers were heathens, and they were forbidden to enter the temple), then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.(when Rome destroyed Jerusalem)21:21 Then let them WHICH ARE IN JUDAEA FLEE to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.21:22 For these be the days of vengeance,(vengeance for crucifying Jesus) that all things which are written may be fulfilled.21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.(Israel)21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword,(we don’t use swords today…. destruction by Rome) and shall be led away captive into all nations:(Rome did this to Israel) and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.Back to Matt…..
Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
THE ROMANS DID THIS IN 70 AD!NOW COMPARE MATT AND LUKE! IT IS THE 6TH SEAL WITH THE RAPTURE!!!
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together (Jesus is just using a common day idiom to say “Look up!”).24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet (the last Trump or Trump of God), and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.(this is not referring to natural Israel, because they still have to go through the tribulation period, which is the time of Jacob’s trouble)Now Luke….
Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;(6th seal Earthquake!) 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth:(they know it’s the wrath of Jesus, because someone has apparently prophesied against the nations at this point, and they know it’s the wrath of God) for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the EXACT same prophecy. Jesus tells them that no stone shall be left standing upon another, prophesying the destruction of Jerusalem by Rome. He goes on to warn them of all of the false prophets and false Christs, and then Jesus tells them about the 6th seal event and His appearing to resurrect the dead in Christ and rapture His church. Read both sections of those scriptures. I’ve been a student of the Word for over 20 years, and I can promise that the vast majority of these “Bible prophecy and end time teachers” are FALSE teachers and FALSE prophets. We are absolutely not going through the tribulation period. We are going to be hidden from the face of the serpent. If you find yourself in the tribulation period after the church has been evacuated for the wrath of Jesus to come upon the nations, then that means you were backslidden, and you’re to receive your part with the unbelievers, because you knew the truth, and chose not to abide in Christ. Christians aren’t praying to escape the persecution of the Son of perdition. We’re praying to escape the wrath of the Son of God that’s going to be poured out on the son of perdition, which is what everything after the seventh seal is…..
Just because Joel didn’t have the equipment of today doesn’t mean that he’d mistake a machine for a horse. Explain the “symbolism” of a soldier looking and running like a horse. And you still didn’t touch on the fact that the 6th seal is the beginning of the tribulation period. It’s 10 chapters before the battle of Megiddo….. How many times do you think the sun will turn black and the moon to blood? And don’t try to claim that it’s simply eclipses and blood moons. There’s the 6th seal Earthquake at the beginning of the tribulation, and there’s the earthquake when Jesus puts His foot down. They’re two separate events. Joel clearly says that the sun shall turn black and the moon to blood BEFORE the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. I hope you don’t actually believe that the church is supposed to go through the tribulation with the son of perdition…..
You’re trying to say that Joel is referring to the end of the tribulation period, but how do explain….
Joel 22:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.2:31 THE SUN SHALL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS, AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
That is clearly referring to the opening of the 6th seal….
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?Just after that, the bride of Christ is seen standing before the throne….
Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.This is also the fulfillment of…..
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days SHALL THE SUN BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON SHALL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT, AND THE STARS SHALL FALL FROM HEAVEN, AND THE POWERS OF THE HEAVENS SHALL BE SHAKEN:24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.Matthew 24:29 is not referring to the great tribulation….
So the 6th seal obviously precedes the battle of Armageddon in the book of Revelation, and the 6th seal is also when the wrath of Jesus is first revealed against the nations….
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?This is also the fulfillment of Isaiah 26, because the 6th seal is the earthquake for the resurrection of the dead in Christ in which the graves shall be opened, and the Earth shall cast out the dead….
Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.The 6th is opened at the very start of the wrath of Jesus being revealed against the nations, and we, the bride of Christ, are the ones where will be delivered according to….
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
So the 6th seal is opened and then we’ll witness the APPEARING, which is not the same event as when Jesus splits the Mount of Olives. At the appearing is when the dead in Christ are raised first, and the entire bride of Christ is changed in the twinkling of an eye to meet the Lord in the air.
Whether the army of the North will be a Nephilim army or not, I’m not sure, but I am absolutely positive that the book of Joel isn’t dealing with the battle of Armageddon at the end of the tribulation period. Revelation REPEATEDLY declares tribulation and wrath against the sons of the devil, which are the seed of the serpent, and we both know that they were on the Earth both before and after the flood. I find it impossible to believe that they will not play a role in the last days. It is beyond obvious that these creatures are giants, and they’re literally in every country. I seriously doubt the devil isn’t going to use the actual descendants of his fallen angels against us at some point. None of these creatures look alike, but they all move and communicate exactly the same all over the Earth, and I honestly believe that the language they speak is the language of the fallen angels. People can try to say these creatures are just animals, but we all know they’re not. Otherwise the governments of the world wouldn’t be trying to constantly cover up their existence.
And what book did you read that in?…. You ever seen a soldier that looked like a horse? I haven’t. Joel describes them as locusts, and he also says they’re a people the likes of which have never existed before. There is absolutely nothing in that entire book that backs up the eschatology you’ve been taught. It never once mentioned Megiddo or the valley of decision. It also never mentions multiple nations. And the battle of Armageddon is not when Jesus appears for the church. The appearing of Jesus for the bride of Christ happens just after the 6th seal is opened. The battle of Armageddon is when Jesus puts his foot down on the Mount of Olives to split it in half. The church WILL NOT BE HERE FOR ARMAGEDDON! That is the time of Jacob’s trouble, which is natural Israel. They will endure the tribulation period for rejecting Jesus, and they will be here for the mark of the beast. The church will be hidden.
Absolutely! One of the things I’m finding to be so interesting is that the vast majority of people running into these creatures are born again believers. I’ve also heard so many testimonies of people using the name of Jesus to scare these creatures away. I don’t believe these are the same “kind” of giants as Goliath and his brothers. Joel says there’s NEVER been a people like them. I definitely believe they’re descendants of the fallen angels though. I also definitely believe they have human DNA, but they’re nothing like us. They’re actual beasts…. It’s interesting how Joel calls them “locusts”, because I believe that the vast majority of them are literally living inside of the mountains underground like locusts live underground. Also, locusts are very docile insects up until they swarm, and then they destroy everything. I believe these creatures are very similar in nature to locusts, and I believe we’re about to see them swarm in the very near future. I believe that they’re creatures of season like locusts are, and their season coincides with the opening of the 6th seal, which will be the earthquake for the resurrection of the dead in Christ for the fulfillment of…..
Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and THE EARTH SHALL CAST OUT THE DEAD.26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.This is the FIRST resurrection!
It will be the opening of the 6th seal of Revelation 6 and the fulfillment of Matt 24:29-31. It’s the same kind of resurrection power earthquake that happened when Jesus was resurrected. The rocks will be rent, and the graves will be opened, and then Jesus will APPEAR! That’s when we’ll all be changed in the twinkling of an eye!
These are the days of the restoration of all things, and the bride of Christ is about to be called into the UNITY OF THE FAITH! I hear the sound of rain coming! We’re literally about to witness the enmity of the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent before the opening of the 6th seal and the appearing of the Son of Man! Jesus is about to be glorified in His church!
They’re also the fulfillment of…..
Revelation 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and HELL FOLLOWED WITH HIM. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, AND WITH THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH.
And they’re also the “flood” army that is spewed out of the mouth of the dragon in…..
Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
The Earth opening her mouth is the 6th seal Earthquake, and the fulfillment of Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
