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Bob and Tim are solely responsible for the refunds. They were willing to take the cash but not willing to accept the responsibilty of refunding participants. Bob and Tim can’t return calls or respond to anyone. But they have no difficulty being interviewed for an hour on a national podcast for all to hear??
It absolutely irks me to no end that Waylon and other non BTW LLC are having to use their own money to bail out Bob and Tim.
Here’s a suggestion- Since Wes promoted and supported Bob and his BTW LLC on his show, then maybe he should also be willing to provide funds to help bailout Bob and Tim.Steve-it seems that you were upset they my husband and I did not contact you the morning after the shut-down expedition. To be quite honest we were not interested in engaging with you.
Chris- I understand and appreciate your input and perspective. This is difficult for everyone involved. No one wants to hang anyone out to dry or be the bad guy. We all want the same thing–The Truth
I’ve done the hard part and come forward. I hope others will feel safe to do the same now. I can’t fault other participants for choosing to stay in the shadows. It’s their choice and no one elses. It’s not a fun thing to put yourself out there on this form for others to judge.
Steve to answer your question -“If you want to know the truth about the audio, then everyone needs to be asking if BOB ever presented that audio to people as a recording of the actual event.”
Answer- at the 1st expedition that myself and my husband attended, Bob gathered all of us participants in a group and told us the story of the torn up camp ground in detail. He then played the recording of the lip blowing from his cell phone. He stated it was the actual live recording of one of the sasquatch especially growling at him at the torn up camp ground. I along with many others where witness to this.
Mo has asked me to convey to the forum—
“Tim has stayed neutral so I would like to apologize for mentioning his name.”Wes-This is an open forum and I’m a paying member. My apologies if this thread is uncomfortable for you.
Mo has respectfully asked that I convey his final SC post on his behalf.
MO says the following-
“As I suspected, once I stated I would not go on SC in fear it would be edited, my forum post was deleted. I then received a call from Wes asking to speak with me which I respectfully chose to declined. I terminate my relation with Bob, Tim and the BTW for moral reasons. As neutral as Wes would like to to be perceived, he has build his fan base and promoted his show using Bob’s torn-up campground and many other questionable stories. I believe that Wes is a good person and he still has a chance to do the right thing. We need his show but it has to be based on the the truth even if it hurts. You can’t suppress the truth. It always comes out sooner or later. John 8:32- “And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”Should anyone want to contact me, you can reach me at bigsastracker@gmail.com
With a heavy heart but clean conscience, Mo
Christopher- I understand your frustration and hope you can get some closure.
To ALL- I would like to thank all those who participated in this discussion. I sincerely appreciate all the feedback. We may not all agree and have our own unique perspectives, however we’re still able to convey those thoughts in a way that allows everyone to have a voice. This is what open forums are all about. I would like to thank Wes for supporting Bob and Tim and allowing them on his show. I’m sure this has been very informative and enlightening for everyone.
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It seems people are interested in what my husband and I paid to attend. Although I feel this is deflecting from the real issue, I want to be completely transparent if this helps anyone. We both paid for the 1st expedition $500 each = $1000. I went on 3 expeditions and my husband attended 2. We attended together at the last expedition that was shut-down by the park officials. We paid for all the expeditions each time. We did teceive a discount after our 1st expedition. At the last expedition, Bob stated he would be refunding everyone’s money and apologized for everything we had to go through. We did not hear back from Bob or Tim so we contacted our credit card company to have the charges reversed and did get our money back for the last expedition. I hope this helps clarify and I appreciate everyone’s patience in allowing me to put this out there.
Steve- I appreciate your insight. To answer your question on payment. I did pay for all 3 expeditions and receive a discount on the last two. As I stated, the money was not the issue. My concern was that they clearly stated on the show that they never did the expeditions for profit however that is simply just not true. There’s no crime in making money and I don’t fault them for it. But please don’t go on a national radio show and state that you never did it for the money when you clearly stated to others on expeditions that the money made was to purchase new equipment. They had people like Waylon and the others who were gracious enough to volunteer their personal time to help Bob and Tim and have their back. They have a right to make a profit but OWNER it and just be honest. Bob broke my heart when he told us to lie to the park officials for him, but I forgave him. But after listening to him and Tim state they never did the expeditions the money compelled me to come forward. Steve, I hope you can understand my perspective even if we don’t see eye to eye. I appreciate you at least taking the time to hear me out. I’m not a public person so this has been very difficult for me.?
David- thank you for your understanding. I knew from the beginning my views would attract criticism and there would be a lot of deflecting. It was never the cost that I was concerned about. Whether they charged $500 or $5000 the point was that they did make a profit but on the show Bob and Tim stated they never did it for the money or to make a profit. This is simply not true and they stated on the expeditions that they were utilizing the profits to purchase new equipment. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this so OWNER it. It’s none of my business what they did with the profit but just be honest.
Chris422- Yes, Bob told us that if the park officials asked if we paid to attend the expedition to say NO. It was a moment I’ll never forget.It broke my heart ?. Bob did acknowledge this on the show and apologized. However, the damage was already done.
Waylon-I appreciate you understanding and respect your loyalty to others. I wish some day you and I could talk this out in private. We may never agree on every thing but at least we could say we tried. ? I will always consider you a good friend and couldn’t ask for anyone better to have my back out there in the thicket. ?
