Joe Rogan interviewed dude and it was compelling, seemed credible. Just like we hear with so many of the sasquatch witnesses… he really has nothing to gain by making it all up. If you take him at face value (and there is no reason that I see not to) he is sacrificing a lot just to get the word out. I dont have the link right here and not in a spot where I can go back and get it. But I urge everyone to find it and watch it. Explains a lot. But mostly it tells us how we will need to approach if we are going to fix things without destroying the world in the process. Or at least it gives us one viable solution. Would love to hear others. Do we have any?