A listener writes “A friend and I were headed home after rock-hounding FS70, NE of Mt Rainier, and east off of Highway 410. I looked up and saw this tree up a an incline. I made my friend stop and back-up, so I could scramble up the hill to take this picture.
We did not have an encounter. I have seen other’s photos of upside-down trees, but seeing this was a first for me. I have not heard of any encounters in this area, but thought maybe you might have.
I really enjoy your podcast.”

Charles R
Nice find.
Ron S
Idk how it got topsy turvy, but that is the perfect metaphor for what happens as a soul of mankind follows darkness or temptations and how wrong things can go.
Never in a million years would I have thought life would teach me so much or reveal so many secrets and break it down to me in ways I could easily comprehend… I’m not a scholar of anything, I’m not even “smart” by human standards. Lucky for us, we are all capable (generally speaking) for “spiritual wisdom” (a redundant term) and enlightenment to the same degree, without a degree or a pedigree.
Just as those on Earth we might label as having genius with wisdom, these are just giggled at by the Creator, similar to how we might look at our own babies in a crib, that swipe at the magical swirling, dancing colors and sounds of a mobile overhead, sometimes just close enough to brush as a confirmation of it existing in the our own little reality. A stage of life where we naturally know how to drink the milk when it’s set before us, and then capable to be wise enough to appreciate where it came from, then ponder that thought as deep and as far into its whole process as you wish, from parent to store, truck to farmer, nature to generation, through time and space and as far as we cognitively feel comfortable reaching… The key is to wisdom is to eventually reach far enough into the one thought of the milk (or anything) for yourself, until you are (at least) genuinely feeling thankful or grateful, and blessed… Or whole?…it was right there, I had to do it😂.
Oh yeah, reverse tree metaphor, right. Here ya go.
This is something that started off small and nurtured, beautiful, it had previously grown, then it was manipulated (alive or dead) and turned on its head where it stopped being a symbol of something good or productive in ways more obvious to humanity.
This oddity speaks to our subconscious fears on many levels and makes an impacting or thought provoking impression on us, or should… If we break it down (not literally) we can see that it can no longer bares any fruits, no leaf to take in light or leaf adding oxygen to the surrounding air (making it more breathable), no great amount of shade around it to take comfort in or shelter under.
Our surface levels of thinking speaking to us saying “ Oh My!”. It has lost the perpetuation for maximal joy in the life around it, or maybe not. The last of its sweet inner sugars have become dry with no root to get moisture through. Where the Yellow Bellied Sapsucker may have once tasted sweetness it now becomes a place where it can eat… Everything is just a transformation or movement in some way.
BTW, a yellow belly befits a snake, leave the birds out of itya mangy varmint! 😊
Without deeper thinking this upside down tree might only become a statement of fear to some, not even fit for firewood. This thing might evoke a symbolic and ugly weirdness to it you instinctively don’t want to get to involved with, for superstitions reasons perhaps, possibly rightfully so… Definitely a good photo opp though (click!).
When you start thinking about this tree with it’s head in the dirt a little deeper it may remind you of other presumed Sasquatch activities where the trees are sometimes found still alive, bent over into an arch, an oddity, enigma, a mystery or subconscious symbolism to it, maybe the beginnings of future upside down trees, a world of upside down trees? Akin to an ostrich with its head in the sand, blind and more vulnerable?
The awareness of the spiritual worlds of good and evil are engrained in our subconscious knowing, that do they exist and sometimes come forth as superstition or intuition, gut feelings (IMO). If you haven’t acknowledged the unnatural oddity of such trees with an emotion or deeper thinking, then maybe you’re missing the warning signs, following a blind path to this same metaphorical ending. In many ways “trees are people too”. All is never lost and something good such as wisdom and comfort can come through everything or anything with faith and enough contemplation, even things that strike fear.
Some day that upside down tree will return where it came from, far past a thing of it’s original beauty and the ability it had in its prime, and past when it was then transformed into fear made possibly with a negative intention and then sensed by others intuitions. I will no longer be something to think about quite in the same ways of appreciation while it was alive, but it will still give, and still make things grow (such as your wisdom) remembering all of it’s aspects of life. One dead, dying or odd tree does not tell the story of the forest, just as a living one doesn’t, it’s both and more, the complete cycle and the reverberations of enlightenment from this.
When I see this tree (or ones like it), I don’t feel fear… I see wisdom waiting to happen. That’s the funny about evil, when you stand opposed to it… It has knowledge and intelligence but no wisdom or virtue, but it does one helluva great job unknowingly and freely creating wisdom for us to find 😂… Some day parasites will have their way with the wood inside of it, and in turn the birds will eat well, the nutrients are distributed in every single way (including spiritually through thankfulness) and life goes on with the thought of everything it gave us.
The question is: What did you personally get from that one old, odd tree? 🌳
God bless
Ron S
Btw, it makes sense to me that evil has been disintegrating at some rate of speed since the dawn of man, this why it has an insatiable appetite that can directly be tied to fear and sin because that is what it literally feeds on and why it keeps perpetuating these reactions from mankind. This “food” we feed it gives this negativity a certain amount of power or relevancy in this realm. Either way, evils destiny is a futile effort… Either you feed it with your actions or into it and that energy eventually goes to waste, or evil wins and everything on Earth is destroyed and it has nothing to feed on, and starves. Giving in to temptations or sin is definitely something we can all do better at and should try to do because in the grand scheme of things those actions are truly all for nothing. Positive actions and good will are eternal.
Heaven eternally rules and Hell drools, quite literally.
🙏🏼🌞❤️
Brian L
Reminds me of an earlier episode where some guys were traveling around northern Idaho and a logging camp hired them to be security for “saboteurs”…. and a several Ton boulder was found smashed into the cab and operator compartment of a full size bulldozer…..
Just another episode where I started believing that these Damn Dirty Apes might have some “Woo” factor involved…..
I’m 6 foot tall and 220 pounds….and I sometimes have trouble opening a ketchup packet….
Ron S
Brian, The packets are easier to open when you let go of your beer 🍻 , good to see you hopefully ketch-up.
Steve G
My best guess on the upside down cedar trees is they were placed that way by people in the 1970’s to encourage bald eagle nests on top. The bald eagle was reclassified from endangered species to threatened species in 1985. And delisted in 2007.
Especially since this tree shown is close to a road, it would make it easy to get a backhoe in to install it. And wildlife personnel could monitor the nest from the road with binoculars to see if there’s birds up there. I don’t think Sasquatch would have to give themselves a warning symbol that there’s people when they can see the road made by people.
Other upside down trees are further out into the wilderness, but a hike-able distance.
Bill F
LOL… Eagles have no issues making nests without the help of humans. There was nor has there ever been any project with heavy equipment placing upside down trees for eagles to nest on.. and it would be preposterously un-natural for them.
The straws people grasp at amazes me at times.