Duke writes “We are joined by Bear (Jim King) who shares the information he has gathered on the infamous LaFlore massacre (a battle between the Choctaw tribe and a troop of Bigfoot) in eastern Oklahoma in 1855.”
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10 Responses to “World Bigfoot Radio: The LeFlore Incident”
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John G
Great native stories thanks for posting. Def. Enjoyed.
Wolf
Encounters between the ‘Original Peoples’ and Bigfoot are commonplace and vary from trading and even intermarriage to slaughter and war… making them no different to encounters between different human tribes over the centuries.
I suspect the ‘Original People’ are Sasquatch and attempted to illustrate this point in one of my short stories… https://www.sasquatchstories.com/didgerydoo-dreaming
Danny G
https://youtu.be/ZTPgYaFUkRQ
Lee D
Love hearing stories between natives and giichisabe
Duke S
Thanks for sharing, Wes!
Steven J
I thought this had been very thoroughly debunked. Watched an entire presentation on why this was fake at the Jefferson Conference last year.
Lewis S
There are several attempts to debunk this and any body who knows the history can see that everything said has a point. Whether the fire arms or the confusing which Capt LeFlores is in the story etc…….. There was an Army Capt. named LeFlores killed in the indian territory 1855 by unknown hostiles. The second Capt. who was tribal police was born the next year and was with others a namesake for the Army officer. Bigfoot bad ! Oh No! let us rewrite an excuse for the tale and hide from harsh truth. The Tribal Police/Army scouts were being created at the time and Capt.J.J. LeFlores was training such with a handful of other half blood troopers for the Army. Horses in the Army were acclimatized to the smell of blood and death as part of training. History has much to teach if people cared to learn.
Lewis S
Debunkers of the tale ignore facts, delete information and don’t look into historical information. Confusing the 2 Captains Johnson Joshua LeFlores U.S. Army and his namesake Capt. Joshua LeFlores Choctaw tribal police. Doesn’t help as does the Army not clarifying the death of the Army Captain killed by unknown hostiles in 1855. His kinsman born 1856 and named for the first hero becoming a hero in his own right muddies the water even more. Lack of knowledge of the sharps big fifty carbine and it being confused with the Sharps .54 buffalo rifle adds to the morass if folly. The Choctaw consider both Men great heroes.
Mark N
Actually an offshoot B movie was made. Look up Bone Tomahawk.
Duke S
In fact there are plenty of newspaper accounts of major incidents of this kind, and the other one we mentioned, the Okeefenokee story from 1829, was chronicled in several newspapers other than the Midgeville one, at the (then)) state capitol of Georgia, and was reported by other papers at least as far away as Indiana. Now the LaFlore story, which supposedly happened in 1855 (26 years later), when many more newspapers were available to print it, gets no mention whatsoever. The fact that there may have been a Josh LaFlore is irrelevant. Skilled historical fiction writers add in actual historical details to make their fabrications seem more “real”, and that doesn’t make those stories true, either. Produce just a shred of actual evidence for this story, and I will be happy to say it could be real. Saying the story must have happened because there was a Josh LaFlore is akin to saying that Winston Churchill killed Adolf Hitler in a one on one saber duel to the finish, and just because both these people existed, that somehow validates the additional construct. And for those who think Bear may have some kind of axe to grind, he is part Choctaw, which is how he was able to get information about the ACTUAL Choctaw legends, which apparently do not include this story.