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    chris422
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    How to pass your police pre-employment psych screening without going nuts.

    While it’s unlikely you’re going to enjoy the exam, there are some things you can do to help it go as smoothly as possible:

    Jul 16, 2007

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    Q: I’ve been a police officer at a small department for about five years and I recently applied to a larger agency that requires a pre-employment psych screening as part of their intake package. I’ve heard horror stories about perfectly normal guys and gals getting burned on these exams and denied employment or branded as psychos for no good reason. I’m not asking you to give away any professional secrets, but is there some advice you can give this poor, hardworking police applicant so I don’t feel like the mental deck is stacked against me from the get-go?

    A: I’ve heard the horror stories, too, and it’s a damn shame because a pre-employment psych screening shouldn’t be more mysterious or intimidating than any other aspect of the application process. Hell, if it were me, I’d be more scared of the background check. So I’m going to offer some general recommendations for keeping your sanity while having your head examined and to help you give the most accurate representation of your abilities and personality during the exam. And I’m not going to teach you any dirty tricks or violate any trade secrets to do it.

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    Why do a psych screening?

    Law enforcement is a high-stress, people-intensive profession. Before a department invests the time and resources in hiring, training and fielding an officer, it wants to be reasonably sure that officer will be able to perform his or her job, will not pose a risk or danger to the public, and – often what drives the potentially contentious nature of the evaluation process – won’t create a liability for the department. Sometimes, however, over-zealousness can lead to unfortunate misinterpretations and misapplications of the exam results.

    An added complication involves quality control of evaluators. Contracts are typically awarded to examining psychologists on a low-bid basis, so you have the pleasure of knowing that the evaluator who’s making a career-altering decision about your fate got his or her job, not because of any special credentials or qualifications, but because he or she was the cheapest deal on the block.

    Having said that, I know a lot of very competent, very professional psychologists who do pre-employment screenings (and usually other types of police psychological work as well), who I would refer an officer to in a heartbeat. Sadly, however, I’ve come across too many assessment mills that make their margin on volume and for which the quality of the evaluation is often…well, let’s just say, not tops. But you have to deal with the examiner you’re dealt.

    What is being evaluated? 🔫

    When you have your pre-employment physical, the doctor typically takes a brief medical history, conducts a basic physical exam, measures blood pressure, conducts lab work, possibly a drug test and sends you on your way. This is a medical screening, designed to assess if you meet the minimal physical requirements for work as a police officer, not to evaluate you for every syndrome and diagnosis known to medical science or to certify you as a paragon of physical fitness.

    In the same way, the psych screening is designed to rule-out significant mental disturbance or personality disorder that would be incompatible with the role of a police officer. The purpose is not to engage in an in-depth probe of the deepest reaches of your psyche to certify you as a paragon of mental health. This point is important because, as I’ll emphasize below, the most common mistake police applicants make that end up blowing their exams is trying to be too perfect and thereby straining credibility, leading the evaluator to suspect you’re lying. So remember, we just want to know you’re normal, not perfect.

    What questions are asked? 🔫

    The exact content and procedure of pre-employment screenings can vary widely, but typically consist of two main components: a clinical interview and standardized psychological tests. During the interview, the psychologist will ask you a range of questions about your background, work history, current lifestyle, any symptoms or problems you may be experiencing and what your expectations are about the job.

    A properly conducted psychological interview should not feel like an interrogation. In fact, it shouldn’t be any more of an adversarial process than any other kind of job interview. Bottom line, I want you to be straight with me. I want you to help me find out as much about you as I need to know to professionally assess your fitness to do this job, but I’m not out to trick you or trap you. What would be the point? The more prickly and defensive I make you feel, the less accurate will be the data I get from you.

    The number of psychological tests employed may range from one to a dozen, but typically, between two and four well-standardized measures will be administered. You’ll likely spend most of your psych eval time hunched over a table with a pencil in your hand, darkening in little boxes and circles on multiple pages. Do your best on each test; this data is important. The evaluator will put the results of these tests together with his or her impressions from the clinical interview to determine your fitness for the job.

    How should I act at the interview? 🔫

    Let’s face it, there is one big difference between a regular job interview and a pre-employment psych screening: the latter asks a lot more personal questions which, for most people, is naturally uncomfortable. While it’s unlikely you’re going to enjoy the exam, there are some things you can do to help it go as smoothly as possible and for the results to be an accurate a representation of your abilities.

    Don’t assume the worst 🔫

    The psychologist is not your enemy. For that matter, he or she is not your friend, either. This person’s only job should to objectively evaluate your mental status and relate it to the specific referral requirements of your job description as a police officer.
    Come prepared

    Show up on time. Bring any records or other materials that were requested. Other commonsense recommendations include bringing reading glasses and having a good lunch prior to an early afternoon exam. Accordingly, the examiner should make sure that he or she is ready at the appointed time and is prepared to conduct the evaluation.

    Don’t be afraid to ask questions 🔫

    If you have a question about something the examiner asks or a test that’s being given, let him or her know. A reasonable examiner won’t object to reasonable questions. Bear in mind, however, that the examiner may not be able to answer many of the questions at the time of the evaluation. The reason being is that any answer could possibly compromise the validity of the test or because the actual results of the exam are owned by the department doing the intake. If the examiner can’t answer a particular question, he or she will tell you so, but there should be no harm in asking.

    Be honest and do your best 🔫

    The entire validity of the evaluation hinges on the accuracy of the information obtained. To put it plainly, if I think you’re trying to deceive me, how do you think that’s going to look on the report? Remember the point I made earlier about healthy people can accept not being perfect, but if you unrealistically try to oversell yourself, it will probably backfire. Just tell it like it is.

    Expect to be treated courteously 🔫

    As I mentioned above, even though the examiner may have to ask you some personal questions, you should never be made to feel gratuitously demeaned or humiliated or treated like a criminal suspect. Indeed, there is nothing to gain by making you squirm because the more comfortable and less defensive you feel during the examination, the more accurate will be the information you provide. Likewise, you’re expected to behave with reasonable respect and decorum. Both examiner and subject should keep in mind that they are each professionals who are each here to do a job.

    Test scoring analysis 🔫

    They’re not lie detectors like some Hollywood polygraph buzzer that goes makes a sound when you give a dishonest response. What most applicants don’t realize is that the psychologist doesn’t individually go over the answer to each one of those questions, rather the scoring process is designed to pick up aggregate trends and patterns that, in turn, translate into the validity and clinical scales.

    So, what the lie scales really pull for are two things. The first is inconsistency. Answering one question one way and then a very similar question the opposite way. If this presents a pattern, it may indicate either an inability to understand the test or an attempt to manipulate the answers. The second red flag is polishing. If you consistently endorse answers like, “I have never told a lie in my life,” the test is going to flag this as suspicious.

    Granted, most of the questions are more subtle than this, but the basic advice is always to be honest. In test protocols I’ve reviewed for legal cases, far more worthy police applicants have unintentionally smoked themselves because of attempted polishing than because of any grossly abnormal findings on the clinical scales.

    Evaluation of results 🔫

    Usually, the examiner will weigh the clinical interview impressions, the psychometric test results and his or her review of the officer applicant’s past medical, employment, and other records. These factors are then placed into a rough sort of formula that yields one of several determinations, often expressed in terms of risk — that is, this applicant fits a low-risk, medium-risk or high-risk officer candidate profile in terms of projected future performance for the department. Some basis for this conclusion is provided in the text and the report is shipped off to the department hiring committee for them to pour into the hopper with all their other application materials and let you know the good or bad news.

    The reason this formula is a rough one is that, ideally, different components of the evaluation should get somewhat different weightings, depending on the nature of the applicant. For example, a borderline suspicious test finding in a 20-year-old, green recruit right out the academy may be weighted more heavily than the same finding in a sergeant with 10 years of good (remember, it doesn’t have to be perfect) service under his or her belt who’s just looking to change departments. That’s because, all things being equal, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, and 10 years of being a good cop should count for something against an iffy test score.

    On the other hand, virtually all I have to go on with the young kid is his test results and his smiling face, so I’m likely to weight the psychometrics and clinical interview more heavily.

    This is all about professional judgment that all doctors, lawyers, psychologists, detectives and other critical decision makers engage in as they put together their cases. Ironically, smaller departments may provide more leeway for individual discretion and judgment than larger ones which have to handle a high volume of recruit selection.

    What if I think my results are invalid? 🔫

    Having said all that, it’s still the case that, unlike an FFD which is more individualized and focused on a specific post-employment problem, the results of a pre-employment screening are typically more cut-and-dried; that is, you either make it or you don’t.

    However, don’t be afraid to ask about any kind of review or appeals process, especially if you really feel your evaluation has been improperly carried out or the results misinterpreted. Although beyond the scope of this column, there are myriad of reasons – technical, professional, economic and political – why psych exams of many types can be misconducted, misinterpreted or misused.

    The bottom line is that, like anything in life, there are no guarantees. The reason there’s a selection process in the first place is that not everyone is the right match for law enforcement work and then no amount of finessing is going to make you dance to the wrong music. In that case, find what you’re good at and have a productive and satisfying life. But if you really feel that being a cop is your skill and your passion and that you’ve been unfairly excluded by an invalidly conducted psych screening, find out your rights and fight for what you feel you’ve earned to right to do.

    https://www.policeone.com/health-fitness/articles/how-to-pass-your-police-pre-employment-psych-screening-without-going-nuts-MH3NWjyArtkWaMgR/

    #158098

    Gumshoguy
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    Yup, I do remember that. Everybody had to go through that.

    #158100

    chris422
    Participant

    Yeah, I’ve been on both sides of screenings.

    #158101

    Augustine L
    Participant

    I recommend you don’t tell them you saw a bigfoot, though. Unless you want to be labeled “delusional.”

    #158103

    chris422
    Participant

    Quite a few of my brethren have admitted to seeing them. Seeing flying pink elephats or talking to your dead relative is not the same as seeing bigfoot. You can thank “Finding Bigfoot” for that. Besides, I keep my career separate. Work stays at work and bigfoot stays here.

    Of course my work with the state has gotten strange lately. This is the wrong thread for that though. 👣

    #158111

    Denise F
    Participant

    When I applied to a particular nursing school, they had a long admittance test. They only accepted a quarter of the applicants that applied and we had a long psych eval.

    This was done by a standardized test, of sorts but I’m happy to say I was accepted and the board said I scored in the 98%….they seemed shocked so I’m guessing that was pretty good.

    I joke with my family sometimes and say ” well I scored a 98%+ on my psych eval so I’m not the crazy one……” 😉

    To me, it sounded like common sense questions but I suppose it may not to others???

    #158115

    Denise F
    Participant

    Btw Chris, is that emoji representing a horse or a donkey? Just wanted to check, lol

    #158117

    Augustine L
    Participant

    My brother in law’s brother was applying for a police job. 👮 The story goes that the psy doc called him a Mexican (horrors!),🌵 a wetback, and other slurs. 💩
    In fact, he is part Chinese 🏮 and part Hispanic from South America.🌄🌴 But anyway, the brother got pissed off finally and grabbed the guy by the lapels. 💣 Interview over. 🔩

    😸

    #158118

    Gumshoguy
    Moderator

    I take it he didn’t pass the psych eval? I believe I underwent three evaluations and they’re pretty much the same. All state troopers have to be evaluated as do local officers, and if you are enjoined in a lawsuit, you may be asked to be evaluated.

    Those that are required to undergo psych evaluation may someday be required to force somebody else to undertake a psych evaluations ….

    It’s ironic because sometime during the career of LEOs they may be forced to take someone into protective custody for a psych evaluation. They (LEOs) would then be required to fill out a petition but the individual either willingly or unwillingly is compelled to go and stay in that facility for up to 72 hours until they receive a complete evaluation.

    That occurs in those instances where the individual clearly becomes a menace to themselves or society either with a complaint by their family members or not. Maybe somebody refuses to take their medications goes coo-coo berserk, threatening neighbors and or family and or attempts suicide. It should never be done as a punitive measure and that among reasons is why you want well balanced people for that type of job.

    #158124

    BirdMama
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    Good thing I’m disabled cause I would probably fail. I’m known to tell it like it is.

    #158133

    Augustine L
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    If you are sane, you don’t flunk the psych eval. Do you?

    I had one for a mental health disability retirement v. a straight retirement. Social anxiety. I passed, so I flunked I guess. I was deemed PTSD’d and got extra points for delusional on account of bigfoot. In this scenario, not all bad.

    #158137

    Gumshoguy
    Moderator

    “If you are sane, you don’t flunk the psych eval. Do you?”

    Gosh I hope not. Then again who knows what or how people respond to personal questions behind closed doors.

    I thought I read something in the information Chris presented and posted acknowledging that consistency is important – not flip flopping on your responses simply because they are presented differently from page to page.

    I believe consistency honesty, and frankness are all key factors. I was trained and tasked to background new applicants and ferret out bad actors or potential problematic applicants.

    #158139

    chris422
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    Failing an eval doesn’t mean your insane and it isn’t the end of the world. The process isn’t perfect, but it is necessary. Stressful jobs takes a certain kind person to handle them. It isn’t for everyone. Besides, you can take a psych test and fail out of the process, then reapply, take it again 6 months later from the same evaluator, pass and get the job.

    Human errors can happen, but the errors are usually the applicant’s fault. Eagerness to answer correctly should never outweigh honesty.

    #158140

    chris422
    Participant

    Why would it matter if it’s a donkey? lol

    #158147

    Augustine L
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    Failing the eval meant I got the disability retirement which was in my case more money. So that is good. My social anxiety got so bad I basically could not be evaluated by my principal. Which pleased her, no doubt. That was the idea. But it’s all good because now I can nap at will.

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