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  • #159560

    Knobby
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    Wolf, I’m aware of the view that cold fresh water from melting glaciers could shut down the Gulf Stream that carries warm water north, even keeping England from extreme winters. Its part of the man made global warming curse, that man can trigger an ice age also. No matter how you approach climate change mankind is at the center. Maybe its valid, but like a lot of predictions its a wait and see.

    #159565

    Wolf
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    Knobby, there has been large ice pack slips many times throughout history, none of them caused by man. More likely such occurrences are in direct correlation to sunspot activity or even pole shifts.
    For several years now a large section of the Ross ice shelf in Antartica has shown signs of slipping into the sea… if it does the planet will likely be plunged into the next ice age almost instantaneously.
    I read somewhere a few years back that the planet has been increasing its natural ‘wobble’ incrementally for decades too.
    There are fairly convincing theories such wobbles have led to dramatic pole shifts, evidenced by the finding of warm weather grasses and flowers in the bellies of mammoths and other herbivores snap frozen in what became permafrost.
    The man-made climate change argument IMO is if anything just more evidence for mankind’s out of control ego. Humans are a relatively brief blip in the life of this planet, yet we believe ourselves to be the masters of it?
    Sorry everyone, we are little more significant in the greater scheme of things than the ants we step on accidentally on the sidewalk of life.

    Even if there was a full scale thermonuclear war, within a relatively short passing of time (geologically speaking), life would evolve and adapt and thrive with or without us.

    #159574

    Steven B
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    The magnetic poles are shifting so I imagine that would have an impact on climate.

    There have been 3 major earthquakes int the last few years (Japan, Indonesia and I think Peru or Chile) that scientists have said shifted the earth’s axis – this too would affect climate.

    Many climatologists will tell you that Solar activity is the single biggest factor influencing climate – good luck controlling that.

    And then you have this:
    https://climateviewer.com/2014/10/18/ionospheric-heaters-how-haarp-really-works/
    Interactive map: http://climateviewer.org/history-and-science/atmospheric-sensors-and-emf-sites/maps/haarp-ionospheric-heaters-worldwide/
    map

    https://www.reality-choice.org/177/sura-the-russia-haarp-which-could-destroy-usa-in-one-fell-swoop
    SURA ionospheric heating facility, is a center of research of the ionosphere located near the small town of Vasilsursk about 100 km east of Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia. Sura is capable of radiating about 190 MW, effective radiated power (PRE) on shortwave…

    In the past, American meteorologist Scott Stevens accused Russia of being behind certain activities that could affect the atmospheric activity.

    Mr. Stevens pointed out that the Russian military specialists were behind the “Fury” of Hurricane Katrina that devastated New Orleans. According to him, Russia has built the secret team to cause a detrimental impact of weather and thus return to Soviet-era of the cold war.

    USA media echoed quickly news. The rumor that Russia and USA are involved in the development of weather weapons.

    http://weatherwarfare.worldatwar.info/2013/11/can-facilities-like-haarp-be-used-to-manipulate-the-weather/
    Eastlund explained in his patent application that by influencing the ionosphere, methods of weather modification are possible.
    “Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device.”

    #159599

    Knobby
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    Conspiracy Theory — Greta Thunberg is a time traveler come to the future to save us.

    “The photo, unearthed from archives at the University of Washington, shows three children working at a gold mine in Canada, including a girl wearing Thunberg’s signature braid and stoic expression.”

    The 120-year-old photo sparks Greta Thunberg conspiracy theories

    #159600

    Knobby
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    #159876

    Knobby
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    From Breitbart News

    “Climate change alarmists are pushing for a change in vocabulary to scare people into taking global warming more seriously, starting with terms like “global meltdown” and “climate collapse.”

    Writing for AdAge this week, Aaron Hall argues that in order to get people to “take action” against climate change, “rebranding” is crucial, since people have gotten too used to the idea that climate is changing and need to be shocked into the notion that the world as we know it is ending.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/11/29/alarmists-propose-rebranding-climate-change-for-greater-shock-value/

    #159884

    Steven B
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    ““The photo, unearthed from archives at the University of Washington, shows three children working at a gold mine in Canada, including a girl wearing Thunberg’s signature braid and stoic expression.”

    Could be another reason…people from the future sent Greta into the past, where fossil fuels weren’t so integrated into civilization in so many ways, as punishment for allowing herself to be exploited by those like Aaron Hall. 😉

    #159903

    Jan F
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    FOR ME,IT JUST WHAT THE HOLY BIBLE HAD SAID ALL ALONG.
    SO PEOPLE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT.
    BUTWHAT WAS THE SIGN ABOUT THE END DAYS?

    KINGDOM AGAINST KINGDOM
    PEOPLE WIL HAVE WATER PROBLEMS
    BRODER AGAINST BRODER
    THE SEA ALL OVER WIL ROOR
    THERE WIL BE EARTHQUAKE IN VERIOS PLACES
    MANY WIL GRO COLD IN THERE HEARTS
    FIRE WILL RAIN FROM THE SKY/HEAVEN
    MANY WILL TURN AWAY FROM GOD IN THE LAST DAYS
    AND PEOPLE WILL BE LOVERS OF THEM SELF
    AND 1-3 OF ALL HUMANS AND ANIMALS AND PLANTS WIL DIE.

    THIS JUST SOME I CANT REMEBER.AND THIS IS THE BIRTHPAINE..IT WILL GET MUCH WORSE.

    #159914

    Knobby
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    Watch: John Stossel Destroys Climate Change Myths in Terrific Video

    John Stossel is just so great at debunking myths.

    This past week, he took on the myths surrounding climate change in a terrific video.

    Stossel invited climate change activists to a debate at the Heartland Institute.

    Small problem? They didn’t show up. As Stossel notes, climate change folks like Al Gore never show up to his invitations.

    Scientists did show up to debunk some of the common myths being pushed by folks like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and other extremists.

    #159922

    Amy H
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    Good video.

    #159929

    Knobby
    Moderator

    Yes, that is a good video. John Stossel always makes good videos. I wish it was longer than 6 minutes. It did briefly touch on things like the alarmism is about governmental control and how C02 helps plants grow better. They eat CO2 and expel oxygen as a by product. They could have added that warmer periods on Earth are its most productive, longer growing periods with increased evaporation leading to increased rainfall.

    I remember right after Katrina hit New Orleans the climate alarmists were not only predicting more hurricanes, but stronger ones. However, for he next ten years we had a decade of the quietest hurricane seasons on record. It wasn’t based on actual science, it was just frightening people with alarms of catastrophe.

    Sorry to make a parallel to the anti-Trump alarmists, but they’ve been predicting he’s going to destroy our nation with some calamitous foreign policy mishap, that he’s dangerous to our nation. Its the same old deal of the extreme left wanting to frighten people to bring them under their control, championing themselves as their saviors. Its goes beyond don’t let a good catastrophe go to waste, its invent impending catastrophe to exploit.

    #159939

    Gumshoguy
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    Global Climate Change is wealth distribution

    #159945

    chris422
    Participant

    The only thing that climate change amounts to is crappy movies of doom & gloom.

    It’s 2012 all over again with these nut-balls.

    #159952

    Amy H
    Participant

    It is, sadly, about redistribution and a desire to become socialist. I wish those left nutters would go live in a socialist/communist society. They need to understand to a greater degree what they’re asking.

    Climate change, redistribution, removal of free speech, citizen surveillance, censorship of ideas, heavily increased taxes, are goals for removing our democratic republic and its capitalistic economy and its the propaganda of the left. They care not that the very pulpit they scream from was brought to them by capitalism and our democracy. It’s complex, however, if people would read history just a little, theyd see there isn’t a better place on this earth. Our sheer size makes it phenomenally wonderful… there not another country of our size and diversity with the opportunities we posses.
    Most reading this know how many opportunities for good they have a chance at everyday. We can, most all of us, better our life’s if we want, fairly easily (not to imply a lack of hard dirty work..nose to the grindstone kind of effort or the risk involved). Flip that coin and imagine what it’s like to live in Africa/China/Mexico/India/pretty much all of Asia, Eastern Europe, South America, and imagine you get one or maybe two opportunities during your entire life to change your life dramatically for the better. For them there is no opportunity to “lose”. They never had the chance to win.
    Why would anyone want to return to the primitive? Roll the dice on systems that don’t care about the individual but the collective?
    Anyhow…. the Trump-alarmist are another tentacle of the propaganda of the left. Take away their pride and happiness telling them they’ve elected a killer, silence their voices by making them believe they’re incapable of understanding anything beyond barbarism. Then, take their rights giving us the power all humans innately crave. As long as it’s us and not them, who will care?!! The “us” being big money…the clintons, Rockefeller’s, pelosie’s, etc.
    The glory is we have voices and we have reason and logic on our side. These nutters can be debated and beat if we don’t give into their attempts to silence us through obnoxious stupidity. This isn’t the time of victims having the only right to speak the truth. All have truth. Truth will set us free but we will have to fight for it.

    #159957

    Knobby
    Moderator

    Greta Thunburg said, “I want you to panic.” Yes, its the alarmist propaganda of the left.

    The “Nutters.” That’s a reasonable term to call those who want to the government to step in and have a hand in all the affairs of our lives. I read decades ago of how socialist political parties ran their candidates as Democrats in hopes of changing that party from within. I also read a poll yesterday that said 47% of 18 to 39-year-olds would vote for a socialist president. There has been lots of leftist indoctrination in schools systems and mainstream media aid in that thinking.

    Is Greta the face of the young activist? Some Democrats have made calls to lower the voting age to 16, and there are already a few localities that have done that. That’s because youth tend to be more idealistic, not realistic in their thinking and are thus more liberal. Its the same deal with open borders (potential votes down the road).

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